[plug] [OT] Sony malware on Windows
Jonathan Young
jonathan at pcphix.com
Fri Nov 18 19:08:35 WST 2005
Alternative solution #1:
Don't use ZoneAlarm... Windows XP's own firewall is pretty good (since
it pretty much is ZoneAlarm).
Using XP's Firewall and a decent hardware router (properly configured)
is usually enough protection.
Alternative solution #2:
Tell user's to learn a little about what they are clicking. Quite often
removing EVERYTHING programs such as Ad-Aware or HiJackThis discover is
a bad move - so what! They give you the full picture, they tell you it
is a minor threat - possibly even nothing to worry about at all - and
the rest is up to the user. I know I have never had this kind of
problem. Then again, I know what I am doing and read things / ensure I
understand things before I click them / remove them.
Arie Hol wrote:
>On 18 Nov 2005 at 16:37, Chris Caston wrote:
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>>Shame it appears you will need to buy longhorn if you want to keep
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>using
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>>it when it becomes "Windows defender"
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>>Also for cleaning up all the crap that MS Anti-spyware, S&D and Adaware
>>miss I recommend a-sqaured hijack free:
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>Your mention of Adaware - brought to mind a recent problem I came across
>on a Windows PC.
>
>Problem :
>User downloaded and tried to update to the latest free version of
>Zonealarm - installer raised errors relating to 'invalid root
>certificate' and 'missing root certificate' then subsequently failed.
>leaving the system with no firewall to protect it.
>
>Cause :
>User had run Adaware and 'removed' all items found by the Adaware scan.
>Apparently Adaware had found the 'root certicate' for Zonealarm and
>considered it as a 'minor threat' - the user would not 'accept' even a
>minor threat and told Adaware to 'clean' all items found - subsequently
>'breaking' Zonealarm at next system boot ( no long wait here ??).
>
>Solution :
>1 - Consult Zonealarm user forums - search hundreds of posts covering the
>problem - try many 'possible' solutions until you find the right one -
>finally install version 6.0 or later of Internet Explorer in order to get
>the 'root certificate' problem fixed.
>
>2 - Get Adaware to back off on the 'minor threats'. (not good ??)
>
>Outcome :
>Even if you do not want/need/use IE you need to have it installed to
>ensure that your Zonealarm fiewall will update/run/survive to protect
>your PC.
>
>Moral :
>What next from Microsoft ?????
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>Regards Arie
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