[plug] [OT] Sony malware on Windows

[Tomasz Grzegurzko]

.. Or don't use Window$..

=)

Tomasz

Jonathan Young wrote:
> Alternative solution #1:
> 
> Don't use ZoneAlarm... Windows XP's own firewall is pretty good (since 
> it pretty much is ZoneAlarm).
> 
> Using XP's Firewall and a decent hardware router (properly configured) 
> is usually enough protection.
> 
> 
> Alternative solution #2:
> 
> Tell user's to learn a little about what they are clicking.  Quite often 
> removing EVERYTHING programs such as Ad-Aware or HiJackThis discover is 
> a bad move - so what!  They give you the full picture, they tell you it 
> is a minor threat - possibly even nothing to worry about at all - and 
> the rest is up to the user.  I know I have never had this kind of 
> problem.  Then again, I know what I am doing and read things / ensure I 
> understand things before I click them / remove them.
> 
> 
> Arie Hol wrote:
> 
>>On 18 Nov 2005 at 16:37, Chris Caston wrote:
>>
>>8<----------------- snip ----------------->8
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Shame it appears you will need to buy longhorn if you want to keep
>>>    
>>>
>>using
>>  
>>
>>>it when it becomes "Windows defender"
>>>
>>>Also for cleaning up all the crap that MS Anti-spyware, S&D and Adaware
>>>miss I recommend a-sqaured hijack free:
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>Your mention of Adaware - brought to mind a recent problem I came across
>>on a Windows PC.
>>
>>Problem :
>>User downloaded and tried to update to the latest free version of
>>Zonealarm - installer raised errors relating to 'invalid root
>>certificate'  and 'missing root certificate' then subsequently failed.
>>leaving the system with no firewall to protect it.
>>
>>Cause :
>>User had run Adaware and 'removed' all items found by the Adaware scan.
>>Apparently Adaware had found the 'root certicate' for Zonealarm and
>>considered it as a 'minor threat' - the user would not 'accept' even a
>>minor threat and told Adaware to 'clean' all items found - subsequently
>>'breaking' Zonealarm at next system boot ( no long wait here ??).
>>
>>Solution :
>>1 - Consult Zonealarm user forums - search hundreds of posts covering the
>>problem - try many 'possible' solutions until you find the right one -
>>finally install version 6.0 or later of Internet Explorer in order to get
>>the 'root certificate' problem fixed.
>>
>>2 - Get Adaware to back off on the 'minor threats'. (not good ??)
>>
>>Outcome :
>>Even if you do not want/need/use IE you need to have it installed to
>>ensure that your Zonealarm fiewall will update/run/survive to protect
>>your PC.
>>
>>Moral :
>>What next from Microsoft ?????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards Arie
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