[plug] iiNet job on Seek

Thu Nov 9 13:31:50 WST 2006

Yep.. exactly. Mining has some good money in it (e.g. 80k/year for level 2
helpdesk).
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Quoting Shannon Carver <shannon.carver at gmail.com>:

> Very true.  Can I just say, depending on the industry you're getting into
> (IT department in a Mining/Resources, or cryptography/security firm, etc)
> would yield far different salaries than those mentioned for the job listed.
> I have a friend who's 1 year Post graduate working at Rio Tinto on Embedded
> systems and looking at almost $70k, as well as another friend who has no
> degree or higher education and is working in IT Management  for OneSteel in
> Perth at >$60k.
> 
>  
> 
> I believe without a doubt the money is still there (especially as Shayne
> said, and specialise in something), in security, Cisco or HPUX??/AIX in a
> network/server environment or even High grade Java or .NET development.
> While I was job hunting I saw many Senior Development roles in C#.NET going
> for $100,000+.
> 
>  
> 
> Shannon
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> From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On Behalf
> Of Daniel Pearson (Flashware Solutions)
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>  
> 
> And also to note - working in the industry myself and rubbing shoulders with
> a lot of other companies out there - that same job at iiNet would be offered
> at another company, with for example a 60k starting salary.
> 
> As the old saying goes - if you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys (or whoever
> it goes..). That is the problem I see with that job for iiNet, and perhaps
> why it has been advertised so often / had such a high turnover rate. If you
> want quality employment, then its simple - you pay for it.
> 
> Just my $0.02 worth.. YMMV :)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Daniel Pearson
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> 
> Shayne O'Neill wrote: 
> 
> No, you can make that sort of money, if you just specialise right.
>  
> The big hint I've been told is to do a security degreee with an IT
> minor. IT security guys with a security degrees can make mindboggling
> somes of cash. A guy I know went straight from uni to nearly $300k .
> That's absurd, and entirely achievable with a degree in security. 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On
> Behalf Of Gavin Chester
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 12:47 PM
> To: plug at plug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [plug] iiNet job on Seek
>  
> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 12:27 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:
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> 
> On 11/9/06, Tomasz Grzegurzko  <mailto:tomasz89 at gmail.com>
> <tomasz89 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> On 11/9/06, Gavin Chester  <mailto:sales at ecosolutions.com.au>
> <sales at ecosolutions.com.au> wrote:
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> 
> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:55 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:
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> 
> Just for my curiosity, what would you expect to get in a job 
> such as that?
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>  
> -snip lots of useful answer -
>  
>   
> 
> For a programming job, requiring a decent amount of skill (and this 
> one sounds like it) I'd say at least >$40k for someone like myself.
> 'Course that depends on the person, for me I'm worth every penny
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> 
> hehe.
>  
> Thanks for such a comprehensive answer.  I am surprised that salary
> levels aren't what I had expected them to be - falling short by a long
> way.  I'm a life-sciences graduate and the salaries you quote are on par
> with what people in my field could expect for comparable
> seniority/experience.  I had suffered under the delusion that IT with
> good degree(s) and several years experience could easily expect
> $150K-$250K.  So is that only the few lucky to work freelance, or
> what?    
>  
>   
> 
> Cheers,
> Tomasz
>  
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> 
> Sorry for THIS job they want heaps of skills and I agree with Shannon.
> I was talking more generically about programming.
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> 
>  
> And, thanks to you for your input, Shannon.  I must say, you have put me
> in my place regarding my expectations of IT salaries :-(.  The reason
> for my curiosity is because my wife often says "you spend so much
> god-damn time on that computer, why don't you put it to _real_ use and
> retrain in IT to bring home decent money!"  :-)  Maybe not, eh?
>  
> Gavin.  
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