[plug] iiNet job on Seek

Thu Nov 9 13:12:24 WST 2006

Very true.  Can I just say, depending on the industry you're getting into
(IT department in a Mining/Resources, or cryptography/security firm, etc)
would yield far different salaries than those mentioned for the job listed.
I have a friend who's 1 year Post graduate working at Rio Tinto on Embedded
systems and looking at almost $70k, as well as another friend who has no
degree or higher education and is working in IT Management  for OneSteel in
Perth at >$60k.

I believe without a doubt the money is still there (especially as Shayne
said, and specialise in something), in security, Cisco or HPUX??/AIX in a
network/server environment or even High grade Java or .NET development.
While I was job hunting I saw many Senior Development roles in C#.NET going
for $100,000+.

Shannon

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And also to note - working in the industry myself and rubbing shoulders with
a lot of other companies out there - that same job at iiNet would be offered
at another company, with for example a 60k starting salary.

As the old saying goes - if you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys (or whoever
it goes..). That is the problem I see with that job for iiNet, and perhaps
why it has been advertised so often / had such a high turnover rate. If you
want quality employment, then its simple - you pay for it.

Just my $0.02 worth.. YMMV :)

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Shayne O'Neill wrote: 

No, you can make that sort of money, if you just specialise right.

The big hint I've been told is to do a security degreee with an IT
minor. IT security guys with a security degrees can make mindboggling
somes of cash. A guy I know went straight from uni to nearly $300k .
That's absurd, and entirely achievable with a degree in security. 

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From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Gavin Chester
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 12:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [plug] iiNet job on Seek

On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 12:27 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:

On 11/9/06, Tomasz Grzegurzko  <mailto:tomasz89 at gmail.com>
<tomasz89 at gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/9/06, Gavin Chester  <mailto:sales at ecosolutions.com.au>
<sales at ecosolutions.com.au> wrote:

On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:55 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:

Just for my curiosity, what would you expect to get in a job 
such as that?

-snip lots of useful answer -

For a programming job, requiring a decent amount of skill (and this 
one sounds like it) I'd say at least >$40k for someone like myself.
'Course that depends on the person, for me I'm worth every penny

hehe.

Thanks for such a comprehensive answer.  I am surprised that salary
levels aren't what I had expected them to be - falling short by a long
way.  I'm a life-sciences graduate and the salaries you quote are on par
with what people in my field could expect for comparable
seniority/experience.  I had suffered under the delusion that IT with
good degree(s) and several years experience could easily expect
$150K-$250K.  So is that only the few lucky to work freelance, or
what?    

Cheers,
Tomasz

Sorry for THIS job they want heaps of skills and I agree with Shannon.
I was talking more generically about programming.

And, thanks to you for your input, Shannon.  I must say, you have put me
in my place regarding my expectations of IT salaries :-(.  The reason
for my curiosity is because my wife often says "you spend so much
god-damn time on that computer, why don't you put it to _real_ use and
retrain in IT to bring home decent money!"  :-)  Maybe not, eh?

Gavin.  

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