[plug] iiNet job on Seek

[Shayne O'Neill]

On reflection, these low-rent sort of positions are not too bad, even
with the turn over. One thing that's bloody hard to achieve is that
first job out of uni. No qualifications, etc. *IF* iinet is providing
early experience, it's a step up to other possibilities. Many of the
ISP's offer really diverse work environments requireing full sets of
skills (My recent experiences with contractors from hostaway for example
has been really positive. Nice guys , and bloody smart some of them) ,
and even if it's only a stepping point to higher level corporate IT and
ultimately the rarefied world of the consultant. 

Kid's gotta start somewhere.

That said, the requirements are a bit rough.. Pick good graduates, with
real practical skills and don't expect experience, give them experience.
Do it right and you'll keep them, do it wrong, and you become a resume
item.

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Bernd Felsche
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 1:24 PM
To: plug at plug.org.au
Subject: Re: [plug] iiNet job on Seek

Gavin Chester <sales at ecosolutions.com.au> writes:
>On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:55 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:

>> > Just for my curiosity, what would you expect to get in a job such 
>> > as that?

>> If you're asking me specifically, I wasn't going for that job but a 
>> totally different one..
>> Still Linux based though -- like I said cool stuff, really what drew 
>> me to apply there.

>Are you avoiding the question because discussion of salaries is a 
>sensitive issue ;-) ;-)

>I'm curious to know what sort of salary seems fair for IT positions 
>expecting a degree and several years experience.  What would have made

IMHO; *fair* would be starting at $80k+ (add $10k if CBD), if the work
is actually being done and the person isn't simply expected to be a
"monkey".

But don't expect to get that in a "competitive" market where monkeys are
graduating from "training colleges" at depressing rates and pissing into
the total swill of incompetence that is "industry standard".

>you happy to take a position, money-wise?  Anyone can chip in with 
>answers, I'm certainly not singling Tomasz out into the spotlight :-)
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