[plug] Changed unreasonably inflammatory subject

[Tim Bowden]

On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 19:35 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Tim Bowden wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 07:36 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> However, I did like her suggestion of holding just a single PLUG event
> >>> every month - a brief welcome followed by two talks happening in
> >>> parallel, one with a more technical bent and one with a more
> >>> introductory flavour.  I believe the committee (i.e. Mark and Patrick
> >>> :P) are pursuing something along these lines - stay turned for an
> >>> announcement!
> >>>
> >>> Cameron
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Does this mean the end of the workshops?
> >
> > I believe the idea at this stage is to stop advertising the workshops as
> > the first port of call for newbies.  After considerable discussion it
> > was decided that the talks events were a better introduction to linux
> > and the plug community for most newbies that the workshops.  They should
> > still be held, but considered to be more of an informal plug family get
> > together where those that identify with plug can get together, socialise
> > and do some serious linux playing, but newbies are still welcome to come
> > along if they need specific help.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> 
> This thread, which appeared to be a call for advice about forum 
> software, has, for the most part, been instead, a means of some people 
> deciding proposals to change or wind up  PLUG and/or its mailinglist, 
> or, end PLUG "as we know it", under the guise of a completely different 
> topic.
> 
Brett,

If we weren't trying to be so polite for the sake of being a friendly
place, I'd give you serious flamage for this disgraceful mail.

/NOWHERE/ has anyone made any hint of suggestion to wind up
PLUG.  /NOWHERE/ has a suggestion been made to close the list.  To
include such claims is inflammatory and completely unwarranted.  You've
also complained about the content of the thread changing without the
subject changing.  This is not at all abnormal.  There are few long
threads that don't morph content subject.  You've been around long
enough to know this.  By complaining about this you are again being
deliberately inflammatory and unreasonable.

If you're worried about PLUG changing, get used to it.  PLUG's never
been static, and never will be.  One of the observations that has been
made during the thread several times is the way the character of the
plug list has changed over the last few years.  Where talking about how
we can change again.

> I do not know who is now the president of PLUG, 

Check the website.  It's all there.  I'll even give you the link:
http://plug.org.au/contact/

> but can we please have a 
> clear statement, from whoever is that person, of what is going on with 
> PLUG, with an appropriate subject, so that it is not obscured from 
> people wHo might not be interested in forum software at this particular 
> time?

What's going on?  Read the thread.  It's all there.  Out in the open.
Nothing is being obscured.  That's demonstrated by you obviously getting
wind of the discussion despite it being "under the guise of a completely
different topic".  Such a claim is again inflammatory and unwarranted.
No, don't bother reading the thread.  I'll give you the short and sweet
of it.  People are discussing how we can better serve the needs of those
who are new to linux.  Providing a web based forum is one means that is
being discussed.  Come to think of it, maybe that makes the thread
subject reasonable.

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............

Tim Bowden