[plug] Wireless-N router for faster wireless....

[Lucas van Staden]

Seems the PS3 cannot do ad-hoc, except with the PSP.

Thus the idea went to creating my own AP for it to connect to.

William Kenworthy wrote:
> This is probably the way to go then - many client AP's wont do AP mode,
> but it should do adhoc mode (basicly a peer to peer mode) - use the host
> to bridge it onto the desired network.
>
> BillK
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:59 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>   
>> Ok, this is just another wild idea.
>>
>> Just throwing ideas out there, checking all possibles, before I go spend 
>> money, and find I could have done this without forking out cash.
>>
>> I have some spare pci wireless cards.
>>
>> Can I not add another card to the media server, and setup that card in 
>> the media server to act as a access point, on it's own channel.
>> I can then get the PS3 to connect to this access point, rather than the 
>> actual router, and thus the PS3 and the mediaserver would have their own 
>> seperate
>> channel, thus their own bandwidth between them. In effect same setup as 
>> having another AP on the network.
>>
>> As the media server has access onto the other network, I can then access 
>> it from the other machines still.
>>
>> The next issue (if this is viable) is to get the ps3 to gain access to 
>> the internet thereafter, but I would solve that as the next step.
>>
>> -Lucas
>>
>>
>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>     
>>> Yes, you have to separate the bandwidth - if you have two groups of
>>> machines on different channels, you will need to bridge them - I think
>>> upnp needs to be on the same subnet.  2nd cheap access point may be the
>>> way to go?
>>>
>>> Also, if you can design it to be a totally isolated link, you might be
>>> able to turn off WPA and gain quite a lot of bandwidth.  I would think
>>> carefully about security and implications for the link ends first though
>>> - I dont know enough about your endpoint and PS3 to say its safe or not.
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:02 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I see.
>>>>
>>>> The netgear router I have is not that advanced.
>>>> No QoS, and is a b/g router. Time for an upgrade me thinks.
>>>>
>>>> Basically (from the other post received) I gotta try and get the PS3 -> 
>>>> MediaServer WAN on it's own channel.
>>>>
>>>> So other machines - channel 1
>>>> PS3/Media Server - channel 6
>>>>
>>>> When they are on different channels, that then means they can't 'talk' 
>>>> to each other? Correct?
>>>> So my machines won't be able to access the media server, until I put 
>>>> that back onto channel 1.
>>>> This will be an issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Lucas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> If you have a g/a router, can you create a virtual AP on the A band for
>>>>> the streams only? - or buy a second AP that does A?
>>>>>
>>>>> VLAN's with QOS may be another possibility depending on the capabilitoes
>>>>> of the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can stream mythTV at SD over g while my son is playing games without
>>>>> either being affected.  HD only works with the laptop next to the AP
>>>>> (lack of bandwidth).
>>>>>
>>>>> In reality, separating the streams by using a second AP or spit as
>>>>> suggested above is going to be the best solution.  Sharing bandwidth can
>>>>> only go so far :(
>>>>>
>>>>> BillK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 01:40 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stream media using MediaTomb to my PS3,  and when any of the other 
>>>>>> machines are very busy on the network, then the PS3 media stream lags, 
>>>>>> and the video stutters badly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On my home network, I have my webserver, my media server, my office 
>>>>>> machine, two laptops and of course the PS3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am wondering about possible ways to improve the speed (or more 
>>>>>> accurately, available bandwidth) between the media server and the PS3, 
>>>>>> when I am busy with a stream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First thoughts - Hardware upgrades:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am considering updating my 'g' router to an 'n' router, and thus also 
>>>>>> updating my network cards to 'n' compatible ones.
>>>>>> I know the PS3 can only do 'g/b', but I figure if I upgrade the rest of 
>>>>>> the network, to 'n', then the PS3 stream will have more bandwidth 
>>>>>> available.
>>>>>> Is my assumption correct here? Chances are that once the other machines 
>>>>>> have more bandwidth available, they will just hog it all again, and I 
>>>>>> will be back to where I started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option would be to go with the 'n' upgrade above, but also get 
>>>>>> an extra router, and connect that direct to the PS3 wired network port, 
>>>>>> and thus get the ps3 to get onto the 'n' network.
>>>>>> Again, the other machines could just hog more bandwidth, as there are 
>>>>>> more available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second Idea:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Throttle the other machines when I stream to the PS3.
>>>>>> Personally I think the throttling would be the best (and cheapest) 
>>>>>> option, and one that I can actually control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts on this please, on how to improve the PS3/MediaTomb streams?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Lucas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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