[plug] MythTV project

Fri Feb 11 17:03:53 WST 2011

thanks lucas for input.

So, how much you want for it? :D

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Lucas van Staden <lvs at dedmeet.com> wrote:

>  On 11/02/11 16:27, Shanon Loughton wrote:
>
> maybe ill just get the PS playtv add on... :p
>
>  Hi,
>
> It is one way, but be prepared to be disappointed. :( I was very much.
>
> This is just my own experience (I have very high expectations from such
> devices), others may like it, I did not.
> (Personally  I think the PS3 interface is not geared towards such things -
> high volume data/files lists)
> The only good thing I can say about the PlayTv device is that it works on
> Linux. Period. Nothing Else. Oh wait, it was a b/day gift from the wife,
> that's another ;)
>
> Tried using it for months as my main recording PVR, and just finally gave
> up.
>
> It hardly ever recorded the right schedule times. (seems it does not update
> the set schedules to what the actual schedules become - programs seem to
> change scheduled times often enough to make that an issue - I wonder if the
> TV channels do that on purpose to prevent recordings?), and in most cases
> the PS3 either have to stay on to enable the recording (they say it should
> not, but they (sony) lie))
> Try and play a game whilst it is recording and the game stutters badly.
>
> Also in Australia the capability to save your recordings to external media
> is disabled.
> The whole thing seemed a bit haphazard/not well done. Very disappointed in
> sony for that.
>
> I was very happy a few years back when I got my first PS3, had high hopes
> to use it as my main PVR/frontend to media,
> and after many months of just frustrating dissatisfaction, I reverted back
> to XBMC/MythTv setup.
>
> I now use it for what it is best : play games and watch BD's, nothing else.
> Nice hardware, Pitty it is so locked down. Even running linux on it was a
> great disappointment.
>
> Note:
>
> Did you see my PS3/mediatomb movie poster setup? Makes the display in the
> PS3 with mediatomb a bit nicer, as you get the movie posters as the icons :)
>
>
> http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html
>
> -Lucas
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Lucas van Staden <lvs at dedmeet.com> wrote:
>
>>  That plugin is still active and works pretty well. called MythBox -
>> http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/
>>
>> I use it in conjunction with the 'built-in' mythtv// protocol, which you
>> set as a source to video content, in XBMC.
>> The built in mythtv// protocol is just to do playback, and makes it easier
>> to get to the recordings from mythtv.
>>
>> -Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/11 16:03, Alvin Teh wrote:
>>
>>  A long long long time ago, i saw a plugin for XBMC where you can control
>> a MythTv backend to do schedule recording. It might still be available.
>>
>>
>>
>> XBMC is only a frontend player, so it does not have any recording
>> capabilities itself, however I believe the guys at XBMC is working on it.
>> (Don’t wait for it as it may be a while before it’s implemented)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au<plug-bounces at plug.org.au>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Lucas van Staden
>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 February 2011 3:57 PM
>> *To:* plug at plug.org.au
>> *Subject:* Re: [plug] MythTV project
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 11/02/11 15:47, Shanon Loughton wrote:
>>
>> My ubuntu media server is not connected to my tv - i use mediatomb to
>> serve and ps3 to play it all.  If I replace mediatomb with xmbc on the
>> ubuntu server can you control the record settings through the ps3 client?
>>
>>
>> Mediatomb and XBMC are two very different things.
>>
>> XBMC can serve its files to your network, but I am not sure if that is
>> compatible with the PS3 (have never tried that)
>> XBMC is only a playback frontend, cannot do any recording, for tat you
>> need MythTV (as one example), which can also serve the files to your network
>> (I forget the term right now).
>> again not sure if the PS3 can be used for picking up that served content
>> from MythTv.
>>
>> The PS3 client is just a playback service, so no, you cannot set any
>> schedules with it to mythtv. (that I am aware of)
>>
>> I stopped using my PS3 as a frontend client a long time ago as the
>> interface is very cumbersome/lacking.
>>
>> -Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>  Shanon
>>
>>  On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Lucas van Staden <lvs at dedmeet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/02/11 13:43, Tim Bowden wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for all the advice.  WAF is a big factor here, so I'd like to
>> get it right before I roll it out.
>>
>> It looks like I'll go with a Micro ATX motherboard for the PCI slots.
>> I'd like to run a separate back end system, but at the moment that's
>> not practical.  I've got nowhere out of the way to run a 24/7 noisy
>> backend system as I had to give up my study a while back for a kids
>> bedroom, and won't get one back till we move.  I have an old AMD-64
>> dual core system lying around with a dead motherboard that would make
>> an excellent back end if I could find a new motherboard for it.  If I
>> could find a Micro ATX motherboard that would still take it, I'd
>> consider it as as a front end, but I suspect it would be a bit noisy
>> with the cooling it would need.
>>
>> Interesting with the xbmc option Lucas.  What are the advantages of
>> that over using the MythTV front end with MythVideo/Music plugins?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mostly mine is WAF related. (look and feel/ease of use)
>>
>> Last time I used mythtv frontend was a bout 4 years ago, and wife did not
>> like the interface at all.
>> Tried skin after skin after skin....
>>
>> xbmc  just LOOKS way better than any of the mythtv skins/screen layouts
>> that I have seen and tried.
>> I started using it a long time ago when I did not have mythtv running, as
>> I had no need to record stuff (had a pvr box that did that job back in the
>> UK)
>> and just wanted a frontend to view d/loaded content. and stuck with it.
>>
>> I am very happy with it, and I myself think it is way better looking than
>> mythtv's frontend, and simpler to use.
>>
>> Now that xbmc is gearing towards integrating their frontend with as many
>> PVR backends as they can (mythtv seeming to be a main one), it keeps the
>> frontend the same no matter what backend I am using, which again comes back
>> to WAF.
>>
>> Other than that, not much else, off the top of my head.
>>
>> The xbmc plugins are great (and there are MANY), easy to install using
>> just the menus, no technical requirements, so wife can install her own
>> plugins as she sees fit.
>>
>> Can't comment on the music side, as I do not use that at all. (xbmc or
>> mythtv - I find those interfaces really cumbersome, but not as bad as the
>> PS3 interface to music - try and browse a couple of thousand songs there!
>> using just a remote)
>>
>> Our music is run on the same mini-itx box (as it is next to the amp), but
>> the interface we use is MiniRok, which I run over the network via xorg's
>> network transparency stuff (and dxpc), and it allows the wife to play music
>> using her own actual pc, which sits in the dining room area. (easy
>> navigation/searching etc using actual kb and mouse - but the music blasts
>> out over the amp)
>>
>> see
>> http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html(little bit dated. Changed teh way i used dxpc to allow swapping teh display
>> about and I had wired the whole house with cat6e since then. Also, we have
>> moved on to MiniRok, which my wife likes the most of all music players
>> tried.- it is simple, fast, and uses file navigation, not mp3 tags.)
>>
>> Minirok is run using dxpc, which is a compression layer and speeds things
>> up, not much use on the homes gigabit network now, but it has one huge
>> advantage:
>> Minirok is always running on the mini-itx box, inside a dxpc session, so I
>> can just connect to that session via a call from any pc in the home (all
>> linux of course)
>>
>> So, I can 'seamlessly' swap the display from one pc to another, and the
>> music is not interrupted.
>> Great for parties!
>>
>> -Lucas
>>
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>>
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