[plug] MythTV project

Lucas van Staden lvs at dedmeet.com
Fri Feb 11 17:13:31 WST 2011


On 11/02/11 17:03, Shanon Loughton wrote:
> thanks lucas for input.
>
> So, how much you want for it? :D
>
LOL

Mythtv will be unhappy if I remove it ;)


>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Lucas van Staden <lvs at dedmeet.com 
> <mailto:lvs at dedmeet.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 11/02/11 16:27, Shanon Loughton wrote:
>>     maybe ill just get the PS playtv add on... :p
>>
>     Hi,
>
>     It is one way, but be prepared to be disappointed. :( I was very
>     much.
>
>     This is just my own experience (I have very high expectations from
>     such devices), others may like it, I did not.
>     (Personally  I think the PS3 interface is not geared towards such
>     things - high volume data/files lists)
>     The only good thing I can say about the PlayTv device is that it
>     works on Linux. Period. Nothing Else. Oh wait, it was a b/day gift
>     from the wife, that's another ;)
>
>     Tried using it for months as my main recording PVR, and just
>     finally gave up.
>
>     It hardly ever recorded the right schedule times. (seems it does
>     not update the set schedules to what the actual schedules become -
>     programs seem to change scheduled times often enough to make that
>     an issue - I wonder if the TV channels do that on purpose to
>     prevent recordings?), and in most cases the PS3 either have to
>     stay on to enable the recording (they say it should not, but they
>     (sony) lie))
>     Try and play a game whilst it is recording and the game stutters
>     badly.
>
>     Also in Australia the capability to save your recordings to
>     external media is disabled.
>     The whole thing seemed a bit haphazard/not well done. Very
>     disappointed in sony for that.
>
>     I was very happy a few years back when I got my first PS3, had
>     high hopes to use it as my main PVR/frontend to media,
>     and after many months of just frustrating dissatisfaction, I
>     reverted back to XBMC/MythTv setup.
>
>     I now use it for what it is best : play games and watch BD's,
>     nothing else. Nice hardware, Pitty it is so locked down. Even
>     running linux on it was a great disappointment.
>
>     Note:
>
>     Did you see my PS3/mediatomb movie poster setup? Makes the display
>     in the PS3 with mediatomb a bit nicer, as you get the movie
>     posters as the icons :)
>
>     http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html
>
>     -Lucas
>
>
>>
>>     On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Lucas van Staden
>>     <lvs at dedmeet.com <mailto:lvs at dedmeet.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         That plugin is still active and works pretty well. called
>>         MythBox - http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/
>>
>>         I use it in conjunction with the 'built-in' mythtv//
>>         protocol, which you set as a source to video content, in XBMC.
>>         The built in mythtv// protocol is just to do playback, and
>>         makes it easier to get to the recordings from mythtv.
>>
>>         -Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 11/02/11 16:03, Alvin Teh wrote:
>>>
>>>         A long long long time ago, i saw a plugin for XBMC where you
>>>         can control a MythTv backend to do schedule recording. It
>>>         might still be available.
>>>
>>>         XBMC is only a frontend player, so it does not have any
>>>         recording capabilities itself, however I believe the guys at
>>>         XBMC is working on it. (Don’t wait for it as it may be a
>>>         while before it’s implemented)
>>>
>>>         *From:*plug-bounces at plug.org.au
>>>         <mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au>
>>>         [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] *On Behalf Of *Lucas van
>>>         Staden
>>>         *Sent:* Friday, 11 February 2011 3:57 PM
>>>         *To:* plug at plug.org.au <mailto:plug at plug.org.au>
>>>         *Subject:* Re: [plug] MythTV project
>>>
>>>         Hi,
>>>
>>>         On 11/02/11 15:47, Shanon Loughton wrote:
>>>
>>>         My ubuntu media server is not connected to my tv - i use
>>>         mediatomb to serve and ps3 to play it all.  If I replace
>>>         mediatomb with xmbc on the ubuntu server can you control the
>>>         record settings through the ps3 client?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Mediatomb and XBMC are two very different things.
>>>
>>>         XBMC can serve its files to your network, but I am not sure
>>>         if that is compatible with the PS3 (have never tried that)
>>>         XBMC is only a playback frontend, cannot do any recording,
>>>         for tat you need MythTV (as one example), which can also
>>>         serve the files to your network (I forget the term right now).
>>>         again not sure if the PS3 can be used for picking up that
>>>         served content from MythTv.
>>>
>>>         The PS3 client is just a playback service, so no, you cannot
>>>         set any schedules with it to mythtv. (that I am aware of)
>>>
>>>         I stopped using my PS3 as a frontend client a long time ago
>>>         as the interface is very cumbersome/lacking.
>>>
>>>         -Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Shanon
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Lucas van Staden
>>>         <lvs at dedmeet.com <mailto:lvs at dedmeet.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         On 11/02/11 13:43, Tim Bowden wrote:
>>>
>>>         Thanks for all the advice.  WAF is a big factor here, so I'd
>>>         like to
>>>         get it right before I roll it out.
>>>
>>>         It looks like I'll go with a Micro ATX motherboard for the
>>>         PCI slots.
>>>         I'd like to run a separate back end system, but at the
>>>         moment that's
>>>         not practical.  I've got nowhere out of the way to run a
>>>         24/7 noisy
>>>         backend system as I had to give up my study a while back for
>>>         a kids
>>>         bedroom, and won't get one back till we move.  I have an old
>>>         AMD-64
>>>         dual core system lying around with a dead motherboard that
>>>         would make
>>>         an excellent back end if I could find a new motherboard for
>>>         it.  If I
>>>         could find a Micro ATX motherboard that would still take it, I'd
>>>         consider it as as a front end, but I suspect it would be a
>>>         bit noisy
>>>         with the cooling it would need.
>>>
>>>         Interesting with the xbmc option Lucas.  What are the
>>>         advantages of
>>>         that over using the MythTV front end with MythVideo/Music
>>>         plugins?
>>>
>>>         Mostly mine is WAF related. (look and feel/ease of use)
>>>
>>>         Last time I used mythtv frontend was a bout 4 years ago, and
>>>         wife did not like the interface at all.
>>>         Tried skin after skin after skin....
>>>
>>>         xbmc  just LOOKS way better than any of the mythtv
>>>         skins/screen layouts that I have seen and tried.
>>>         I started using it a long time ago when I did not have
>>>         mythtv running, as I had no need to record stuff (had a pvr
>>>         box that did that job back in the UK)
>>>         and just wanted a frontend to view d/loaded content. and
>>>         stuck with it.
>>>
>>>         I am very happy with it, and I myself think it is way better
>>>         looking than mythtv's frontend, and simpler to use.
>>>
>>>         Now that xbmc is gearing towards integrating their frontend
>>>         with as many PVR backends as they can (mythtv seeming to be
>>>         a main one), it keeps the frontend the same no matter what
>>>         backend I am using, which again comes back to WAF.
>>>
>>>         Other than that, not much else, off the top of my head.
>>>
>>>         The xbmc plugins are great (and there are MANY), easy to
>>>         install using just the menus, no technical requirements, so
>>>         wife can install her own plugins as she sees fit.
>>>
>>>         Can't comment on the music side, as I do not use that at
>>>         all. (xbmc or mythtv - I find those interfaces really
>>>         cumbersome, but not as bad as the PS3 interface to music -
>>>         try and browse a couple of thousand songs there! using just
>>>         a remote)
>>>
>>>         Our music is run on the same mini-itx box (as it is next to
>>>         the amp), but the interface we use is MiniRok, which I run
>>>         over the network via xorg's network transparency stuff (and
>>>         dxpc), and it allows the wife to play music using her own
>>>         actual pc, which sits in the dining room area. (easy
>>>         navigation/searching etc using actual kb and mouse - but the
>>>         music blasts out over the amp)
>>>
>>>         see
>>>         http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html
>>>         (little bit dated. Changed teh way i used dxpc to allow
>>>         swapping teh display about and I had wired the whole house
>>>         with cat6e since then. Also, we have moved on to MiniRok,
>>>         which my wife likes the most of all music players tried.- it
>>>         is simple, fast, and uses file navigation, not mp3 tags.)
>>>
>>>         Minirok is run using dxpc, which is a compression layer and
>>>         speeds things up, not much use on the homes gigabit network
>>>         now, but it has one huge advantage:
>>>         Minirok is always running on the mini-itx box, inside a dxpc
>>>         session, so I can just connect to that session via a call
>>>         from any pc in the home (all linux of course)
>>>
>>>         So, I can 'seamlessly' swap the display from one pc to
>>>         another, and the music is not interrupted.
>>>         Great for parties!
>>>
>>>         -Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Regards
>>>         Lucas van Staden
>>>
>>>         http://www.proxiblue.com.au/ (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
>>>         http://www.vanstaden.com.au/ (Linux)
>>>
>>>         --
>>>         I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm
>>>         happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
>>>         --
>>>
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>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Regards
>>>         Lucas van Staden
>>>           
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>>>           
>>>         --
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>>>         --
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Regards
>>         Lucas van Staden
>>
>>         http://www.proxiblue.com.au/  (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
>>         http://www.vanstaden.com.au/  (Linux)
>>
>>         --
>>         I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
>>         --
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Regards
>     Lucas van Staden
>
>     http://www.proxiblue.com.au/  (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
>     http://www.vanstaden.com.au/  (Linux)
>
>     --
>     I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
>     --
>
>


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Regards
Lucas van Staden

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