[plug] MythTV project
Lucas van Staden
lvs at dedmeet.com
Tue Feb 22 16:16:40 WST 2011
Hi,
Just another little titbit of information regarding the Sony PS3 playTv,
which adds to the disappointment.
I have not been able to get channel 10 for some reason, and after quite
a bit of googling, I have found some posts that mention that the device
has a 'too high' error threshold on the signal strength. (not 100% sure
if that is the correct terminology), to explain:
The device will not accept a channel as tuned in (or locked) if the
signal strength is below 90%. (the suggested level seems to differ from
post to post, but avarage at 90%, but definitely above 80%)
I can get channel 10 fine on my hauppauge pci card, and on that the
signal strength is around 60%, which still gives a good picture.
I for one would suggest to anyone to stay away from the playTV as a
solution to external capture cards.
-Lucas
On 11/02/11 16:49, Lucas van Staden wrote:
> On 11/02/11 16:27, Shanon Loughton wrote:
>> maybe ill just get the PS playtv add on... :p
>>
> Hi,
>
> It is one way, but be prepared to be disappointed. :( I was very much.
>
> This is just my own experience (I have very high expectations from
> such devices), others may like it, I did not.
> (Personally I think the PS3 interface is not geared towards such
> things - high volume data/files lists)
> The only good thing I can say about the PlayTv device is that it works
> on Linux. Period. Nothing Else. Oh wait, it was a b/day gift from the
> wife, that's another ;)
>
> Tried using it for months as my main recording PVR, and just finally
> gave up.
>
> It hardly ever recorded the right schedule times. (seems it does not
> update the set schedules to what the actual schedules become -
> programs seem to change scheduled times often enough to make that an
> issue - I wonder if the TV channels do that on purpose to prevent
> recordings?), and in most cases the PS3 either have to stay on to
> enable the recording (they say it should not, but they (sony) lie))
> Try and play a game whilst it is recording and the game stutters badly.
>
> Also in Australia the capability to save your recordings to external
> media is disabled.
> The whole thing seemed a bit haphazard/not well done. Very
> disappointed in sony for that.
>
> I was very happy a few years back when I got my first PS3, had high
> hopes to use it as my main PVR/frontend to media,
> and after many months of just frustrating dissatisfaction, I reverted
> back to XBMC/MythTv setup.
>
> I now use it for what it is best : play games and watch BD's, nothing
> else. Nice hardware, Pitty it is so locked down. Even running linux on
> it was a great disappointment.
>
> Note:
>
> Did you see my PS3/mediatomb movie poster setup? Makes the display in
> the PS3 with mediatomb a bit nicer, as you get the movie posters as
> the icons :)
>
> http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html
>
> -Lucas
>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Lucas van Staden <lvs at dedmeet.com
>> <mailto:lvs at dedmeet.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That plugin is still active and works pretty well. called MythBox
>> - http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/
>>
>> I use it in conjunction with the 'built-in' mythtv// protocol,
>> which you set as a source to video content, in XBMC.
>> The built in mythtv// protocol is just to do playback, and makes
>> it easier to get to the recordings from mythtv.
>>
>> -Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/11 16:03, Alvin Teh wrote:
>>>
>>> A long long long time ago, i saw a plugin for XBMC where you can
>>> control a MythTv backend to do schedule recording. It might
>>> still be available.
>>>
>>> XBMC is only a frontend player, so it does not have any
>>> recording capabilities itself, however I believe the guys at
>>> XBMC is working on it. (Don’t wait for it as it may be a while
>>> before it’s implemented)
>>>
>>> *From:*plug-bounces at plug.org.au
>>> <mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au>
>>> [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] *On Behalf Of *Lucas van Staden
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 February 2011 3:57 PM
>>> *To:* plug at plug.org.au <mailto:plug at plug.org.au>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [plug] MythTV project
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 11/02/11 15:47, Shanon Loughton wrote:
>>>
>>> My ubuntu media server is not connected to my tv - i use
>>> mediatomb to serve and ps3 to play it all. If I replace
>>> mediatomb with xmbc on the ubuntu server can you control the
>>> record settings through the ps3 client?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mediatomb and XBMC are two very different things.
>>>
>>> XBMC can serve its files to your network, but I am not sure if
>>> that is compatible with the PS3 (have never tried that)
>>> XBMC is only a playback frontend, cannot do any recording, for
>>> tat you need MythTV (as one example), which can also serve the
>>> files to your network (I forget the term right now).
>>> again not sure if the PS3 can be used for picking up that served
>>> content from MythTv.
>>>
>>> The PS3 client is just a playback service, so no, you cannot set
>>> any schedules with it to mythtv. (that I am aware of)
>>>
>>> I stopped using my PS3 as a frontend client a long time ago as
>>> the interface is very cumbersome/lacking.
>>>
>>> -Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shanon
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Lucas van Staden
>>> <lvs at dedmeet.com <mailto:lvs at dedmeet.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/02/11 13:43, Tim Bowden wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the advice. WAF is a big factor here, so I'd like to
>>> get it right before I roll it out.
>>>
>>> It looks like I'll go with a Micro ATX motherboard for the PCI
>>> slots.
>>> I'd like to run a separate back end system, but at the moment that's
>>> not practical. I've got nowhere out of the way to run a 24/7 noisy
>>> backend system as I had to give up my study a while back for a kids
>>> bedroom, and won't get one back till we move. I have an old AMD-64
>>> dual core system lying around with a dead motherboard that would
>>> make
>>> an excellent back end if I could find a new motherboard for it.
>>> If I
>>> could find a Micro ATX motherboard that would still take it, I'd
>>> consider it as as a front end, but I suspect it would be a bit noisy
>>> with the cooling it would need.
>>>
>>> Interesting with the xbmc option Lucas. What are the advantages of
>>> that over using the MythTV front end with MythVideo/Music plugins?
>>>
>>> Mostly mine is WAF related. (look and feel/ease of use)
>>>
>>> Last time I used mythtv frontend was a bout 4 years ago, and
>>> wife did not like the interface at all.
>>> Tried skin after skin after skin....
>>>
>>> xbmc just LOOKS way better than any of the mythtv skins/screen
>>> layouts that I have seen and tried.
>>> I started using it a long time ago when I did not have mythtv
>>> running, as I had no need to record stuff (had a pvr box that
>>> did that job back in the UK)
>>> and just wanted a frontend to view d/loaded content. and stuck
>>> with it.
>>>
>>> I am very happy with it, and I myself think it is way better
>>> looking than mythtv's frontend, and simpler to use.
>>>
>>> Now that xbmc is gearing towards integrating their frontend with
>>> as many PVR backends as they can (mythtv seeming to be a main
>>> one), it keeps the frontend the same no matter what backend I am
>>> using, which again comes back to WAF.
>>>
>>> Other than that, not much else, off the top of my head.
>>>
>>> The xbmc plugins are great (and there are MANY), easy to install
>>> using just the menus, no technical requirements, so wife can
>>> install her own plugins as she sees fit.
>>>
>>> Can't comment on the music side, as I do not use that at all.
>>> (xbmc or mythtv - I find those interfaces really cumbersome, but
>>> not as bad as the PS3 interface to music - try and browse a
>>> couple of thousand songs there! using just a remote)
>>>
>>> Our music is run on the same mini-itx box (as it is next to the
>>> amp), but the interface we use is MiniRok, which I run over the
>>> network via xorg's network transparency stuff (and dxpc), and it
>>> allows the wife to play music using her own actual pc, which
>>> sits in the dining room area. (easy navigation/searching etc
>>> using actual kb and mouse - but the music blasts out over the amp)
>>>
>>> see
>>> http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html
>>> (little bit dated. Changed teh way i used dxpc to allow swapping
>>> teh display about and I had wired the whole house with cat6e
>>> since then. Also, we have moved on to MiniRok, which my wife
>>> likes the most of all music players tried.- it is simple, fast,
>>> and uses file navigation, not mp3 tags.)
>>>
>>> Minirok is run using dxpc, which is a compression layer and
>>> speeds things up, not much use on the homes gigabit network now,
>>> but it has one huge advantage:
>>> Minirok is always running on the mini-itx box, inside a dxpc
>>> session, so I can just connect to that session via a call from
>>> any pc in the home (all linux of course)
>>>
>>> So, I can 'seamlessly' swap the display from one pc to another,
>>> and the music is not interrupted.
>>> Great for parties!
>>>
>>> -Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>> Lucas van Staden
>>>
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>>> http://www.vanstaden.com.au/ (Linux)
>>>
>>> --
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>>> - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
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>>> Regards
>>> Lucas van Staden
>>>
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>>>
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>>> --
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Lucas van Staden
>>
>> http://www.proxiblue.com.au/ (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
>> http://www.vanstaden.com.au/ (Linux)
>>
>> --
>> I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
>> --
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Lucas van Staden
>
> http://www.proxiblue.com.au/ (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
> http://www.vanstaden.com.au/ (Linux)
>
> --
> I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
> --
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Regards
Lucas van Staden
http://www.proxiblue.com.au/ (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
http://www.vanstaden.com.au/ (Linux)
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