[plug] Linux training for ...

Wed Dec 9 20:00:44 UTC 2015

In reading the various responses - thank you - I get the sense that there
is an understanding that I'm talking about becoming certified with Linux.

This is not at all what I'm talking about.

I'm taking about exposing small business and students directly to Linux as
a tool which plays in the same field as Windows and OS X. I think this is
about creating awareness and familiarity, not about being a certified user.
It's about a "Windows" vs Linux perspective on productivity, security,
anti-virus, upgrade paths, forced upgrades and vendor lock in. It's also
about open source, about software freedom, etc.

I have no doubt that this will also include conversations about bash and
filesystem's about the kernel and distributions, but it's not about that as
such.

Anyone?
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On Dec 8, 2015 16:40, "Linda Ray" <lindarayonline at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello there, there is an introduction to Linux course on EDx site... With
> or without certificate ($99 if you want one) or free otherwise.
>
> There was also an admin course which could lead to work as well...on the
> same site.
>
> I was considering doing the intro as well but life is a bit busy right
> now...so if I don't get to using the manuals ...that's what I may do to
> kickstart.
>
> Cheers
> Linda
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 8 Dec 2015, at 11:04 AM, BillK <billk at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> Check out the LPI exams and courses ... its been awhile since I've looked
> at them but they looked better than the original RHCE.
>
> Having used Linux in a number of HiEd courses (as the teaching vehicle for
> the theory - so not specifically taught as "only" Linux) I've found that
> once people have been introduced to the cli, have been talked through the
> basics and are aware of the structures we work within (open source,
> packaging, distros etc.) they are easily able to self-teach - if dedicated
> enough! I often think advanced courses like Pawsley's are as much about
> marketing/raising profile as actual training.
>
> There are no office type courses etc for Linux like you see for Windows as
> there is no demand. Where I now work did put up an LPI based short course
> last year but lack of marketing aside, there was no interest (predictable
> :) I get contacted a few times a year by people wanting to come over and
> run RHCE based courses from the East - expensive and aimed at business.
>
> Unlike MS and Cisco products, there seems to be little interest in Linux
> certifications where it counts (as a job requirement) - I would love to be
> corrected.
>
> BillK
>
>
> On 8 December 2015 9:28:55 am AWST, Chris Hoy Poy <chris at hoypoy.id.au>
> wrote:
>>
>> RHCE was the standard 15 years ago when I did mine. My impression is its
>> been watered down a bit now, but maybe that's my view through bitter tears
>> of experience and frustration ;-) Nothing beats having some computer
>> science background either,  but in general it's the attitude that makes the
>> tech/admin great, skills can be learnt.
>>
>> Do I recall an attempt at plug mentoring a few years back? Happy to have
>> discussions around that at times too :-)
>>
>> My advice now is more along the lines of get some linux happening, learn
>> some languages, get comfortable with perl, python, etc. Someone will pick
>> you up if you appear to be enthusiastic about it :-)
>>
>> /Chris
>> Linux is very hands-on. Most Linux fans that I've known felt like they
>> learn better by playing with the OS, rather than sitting in a classroom.
>> The best kind of learning, based on my very personal experience (~8 years a
>> home user, 4 months a Linux sysadmin - long story, really), is when you
>> have a specific goal and you work towards it, troubleshoot, look up
>> answers, read man pages etc.
>>
>> I can see the benefit of more formalized studying for some though,
>> wondering too if there's any service of that sort offered in WA.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Onno Benschop <onno at itmaze.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I'm on day two of the Pawsey Supercomputer training and loving it.
>>> Thanks for publishing it here!
>>>
>>> During the course it occurred to me that there must be some face to face
>>> training around to learn about Linux.
>>>
>>> I also wondered if there was anything for small business specifically,
>>> so they might reap the rewards associated with Linux and Open Source.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I'm guessing that there is opportunity for education for
>>> students.
>>>
>>> Do such things exist in Perth or is this an opportunity for PLUG to get
>>> some publicity, outreach and generate income?
>>>
>>> I'm also in the middle of publishing a lot of podcasts and wonder if
>>> there is interest in me interviewing members and/or the OSS community for
>>> the same publicity, outreach and income purposes.
>>>
>>> If you're interested, I'm about to put my LCA2014 interviews up as a
>>> podcast - as soon as I've processed the meta data. Some Amateur Radio ones
>>> are already up: http://podcasts.itmaze.com.au/
>>>
>>> Would love to hear what people think about this.
>>> --
>>> finger painting on glass is an inexact art - apologies for any errors in
>>> this scra^Hibble
>>>
>>> ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno..
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