[plug] Mini Linux Web Server

Tue Mar 23 20:58:30 AWST 2021

Just throwing my 2 cents here.
I doubt if you really care about performance and can probably run these two
websites on the cheapest hardware you can find.

But if for some reason you do. Regardless of which hardware you use, use
CloudFlare CDN free tier .
You'll get security and performance out of the box which you can't get with
regular home connection

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 7:50 PM Benjamin <zorlin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paying wayyyy too much for nearly every component. WordPress runs fine on
> an sdcard, use less horrible stupid plugins and then stop using wordpress.
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 19:49 Damon Perry, <talk at damonperry.id.au> wrote:
>
>> Altronics:
>> $144 Raspi4 8GB
>> $60  250GB SSD
>> $40  Case
>> $20  PSU
>> $6     SD
>> TOTAL: $270
>>
>> You need an SSD, friends don't let friends run wordpress on an SD card.
>> --
>>   Damon Perry
>>   talk at damonperry.id.au
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 17:32, Benjamin wrote:
>>
>> Intel Celery processors are bad value long term and lack substantial
>> nutrition.
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 17:31 Benjamin, <zorlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good god how much are you paying for your Pis?
>>
>> $120 from a reputable vendor, plus $6 for a decent SD card, $30 for a
>> damn nice case, $10 for PSU.
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 17:02 Damon Perry, <talk at damonperry.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I disagree with your pricing estimates.
>>
>> raspi4 8GB, case, SSD&SD, PSU = ~$270
>> NUC Celeron , 8GB, & SSD          = ~$330
>> Choosing the pi saves you $60, not $400.
>>
>> The NUC will be more powerful as well:
>>
>> https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-raspberry_pi_4_b_broadcom_bcm2711-1796-vs-intel_celeron_j4005-840
>>
>> You're getting a very nice NUC for $500-600
>> --
>>   Damon Perry
>>   talk at damonperry.id.au
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 13:38, Byron Hammond wrote:
>>
>> This partly depends on your budget.
>>
>> If you don't mind sacrificing performance, a cheap option would be the
>> raspberry pi. You might pay 100$ for that, a case and power supply.
>>
>> If you are happy to spend a little bit more (maybe around 500-600), as
>> Damon suggested an Intel NUC are also good. Maybe you could claim this as a
>> deduction against your tax.
>>
>> The good thing about both of them is that they are small and low power.
>>
>> from my mobile
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 12:40 pm Damon Perry, <talk at damonperry.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you assume the two websites he linked in the footer are what he wants
>> then his requirements are 2 wordpress sites.
>>
>> A NUC would probably be the most appropriate choice before going for more
>> exotic or custom built options.
>>
>> --
>>   Damon Perry
>>   talk at damonperry.id.au
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 08:16, Benjamin wrote:
>>
>> The next step up from a weak server is a Pi but it's not exactly open
>> source. Personally I love the Chatreey AN1 but the model I love is oos for
>> weeks :(
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 07:52 Bernd Felsche, <bernie at innovative.iinet.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 02:44:53 Jon Miller wrote:
>>
>> > I'm looking for some advice on purchasing a mini web server that
>> > runs Linux (as I want to run my website from home vs via a hosting
>> > service), can I get recommendations on what's on the market and
>> > the ease of operation.  I currently will only be running my 2
>> > websites.
>>
>> I'm guessing that you upstream bandwidth is no more than 100Mbps.
>>
>> If pages are largely static, you can keep the server small and
>> simple using THTTPD http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/
>>
>> Static pages mean that your web site is blindingly-fast compared to
>> the dynamic sites that dominate the webscape.
>>
>> Really small hardware (as open source as it can get) e.g.
>>
>> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/Home-Server/LIME2-SERVER-NO-HDD/open-source-hardware
>> Choose HDD/SSD from your vendor/bits bin.
>>
>> If you need dynamic pages - and think about that very carefully
>> because that can also open up your site to scripting attacks - then
>> the next step up is an entry-level, multi-core AMD beastie with
>> giggles of RAM for cache. Stick to a feature-less mainboard - esp no
>> WiFi and no fancy video to keep power consumption and heat low.
>>
>> Whichever way you go; the web server belongs in a DMZ with your
>> modem-firewall-router in-between also backed up by UPS so that you
>> can keep serving pages for hours when (not if) the street goes dark.
>> Low-end, quality UPS will cost about $100.
>>
>> --
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