[plug] Can anyone recommend resources (local and online) for developing a Linux SOE ?
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Wed Apr 6 12:03:53 AWST 2022
There are quite a few companies that will support RHEL here in Perth
(Happy to do intro's). You can do SOE management using tools like
Satellite/Foreman or image builder . Life cycle management of RHEL is
being done by a lot of the large companies around town.
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/composing_a_customized_rhel_system_image/composer-description_composing-a-customized-rhel-system-image
https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/management/satellite
Kind Regards
Shaun Hofer (Red Hat)
On 6/04/2022 9:18 am, warren at warbel.net wrote:
>
> As others have pointed out: RHEL in a commercial setting would be the
> usual go-to. If you’re hell-bent on stability, then avoid RHEL’s
> upstream editions (Fedora/Centos). I would aim to use Rocky Linux
> instead which is a downstream version of RHEL 8. Where I work, we use
> mostly Ubuntu, with a small spattering of Centos because you can’t
> make everyone happy and some software vendors only work with yum/dnf.
>
> The new version of Ubuntu 22.04 allegedly has better support for
> Active Directory integration and management, but I haven’t had the
> time to investigate.
>
> Even if you paid for support from RHEL, they aren’t going to build a
> SOE/MOE for you. Access to their documentation is free though if you
> sign up for a developer account (which will also give you access to
> limited RHEL licensing).
>
> I honestly can’t think of any MSPs in Perth that could build a Linux
> SOE and outside of the universities/research sector. There isn’t much
> demand commercially anyway (as far as I’m aware). Linux mostly exists
> in datacentres not on desktops. Plus, the sort of people who like to
> use Linux on their desktops are generally allergic to having them
> centrally managed. It might be easier from an administrative
> perspective to isolate them on your network (zero-trust) and funnel
> their access to shared resources via MFA’d/IaP solutions etc.
>
> TL;DR: No one in Perth really supports Linux, there isn’t a big enough
> market. You’ll probably have to have at least one offering of a Debian
> based and RHEL based system for compatibility reasons. Aim for
> stability, use the LTS releases. Configuration management and
> automation is your friend. But it might be better politically to let
> your users install Linux themselves and isolate them from sensitive
> systems.
>
> -w
>
> *From:*plug <plug-bounces at plug.org.au> *On Behalf Of *Euan de Kock
> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 March 2022 6:58 PM
> *To:* Dean Bergin <dean.bergin at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* senectus at gmail.com; PLUG mailing list <plug at plug.org.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [plug] Can anyone recommend resources (local and
> online) for developing a Linux SOE ?
>
> On the RedHat front, they also have some interesting Fedora spins that
> might be worth a look, Fedora Silver Blue, which is an immutable
> desktop version and Fedora coreos which is a minimal container version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Euan
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 17:16 Dean Bergin, <dean.bergin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dare I say it. Red Hat
>
> Red Hat offer commercial support and their distros are catered to
> customisations and they have some tooling around it as well I think.
>
> You could probably get away with using their tooling and CentOS to
> make a pretty decent "image" that can be deployed on a variety of
> platforms.
>
> /
> Regards,
>
> Dean Bergin/
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 15:11, Euan de Kock <euan at dekock.net> wrote:
>
> Hi, No worries re the acronym.
>
> A lot depends on what you're trying to do.
>
> If its a "device", like an IoT box, maybe look at a Raspberry
> Pi with it's own version of Debain (Raspian). Another option -
> both on a Pi or on X86 hardware would be OpenWRT, it's got a
> nice configurable web interface and although designed as a
> router it can be pretty flexible and has good support for
> running additional apps as docker images.
>
> For a user facing X86 PC, pretty much any of the mainstream
> variants would work - my daily drive is Fedora, but Debain is
> pretty popular amongst the PLUG community and would get a lot
> of support feedback here.
>
> Regards,
>
> Euan.
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 3:02 PM Sen ectus <senectus at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry yes you're right:
>
> SOE Standard Operating Environment
>
> Debian probably., I want to make a simple repeatable linux
> "gold Image" configuration to deploy a bunch of devices
> that have been pre patched and hardened and where possible
> configured.
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 14:52, Euan de Kock
> <euan at dekock.net> wrote:
>
> What do you mean by SOE? Sorry,
> uncontextualized acronyms are hard to understand.
>
> Regards,
>
> Euan
>
> *Acronym***
>
>
>
> *Definition*
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Special Operations Executive /(World War II; UK)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sony Online Entertainment Inc.
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> State of the Environment /(AU)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Special Operations Executive
> /(British organisation responsible for training and coordinating the operations of partisan groups in occupied countries, WWII)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Scope of Employment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> School of Education
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> School of Engineering
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Spirit of Excellence /(various organizations)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> System of Entry
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sale of Equipment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Supervisor of Elections
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Society of Engineers /(various locations)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> State-Owned Enterprise
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Spirit of Enterprise /(various locations)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Status of Eligibility /(Florida)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Special Operation Equipment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Standard Operating Environment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Section of Epidemiology /(various organizations)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Spirit of Elijah
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> State of Emergency /(game and game term)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sequence Of Events
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sound over Ethernet
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Serial over Ethernet
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Solaris Operating Environment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Symbol of Excellence
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Standards of Evidence
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Svenska Offroad Entusiasterna /(Swedish forum)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> School of Evangelism
> /(Youth with a Mission secondary training school)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Schedule Of Events
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Society of Operations Engineers
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Standards of Excellence
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Secret Operations Executive /(UK)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sisters of Elune /(role-playing)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Secret of Evermore /(video game)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> System Operational Effectiveness /(US DoD)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Statement of Expenditure
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Small Open Economy /(market model)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Secretary of Energy /(sometimes seen as 'S of E')/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Small Office Edition
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Server Operating Environment /(computing)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sum of Exponentials /(mathematics)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Splicing-by-Overlap Extension
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Special Ops Edition /(OCZ Technology)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sega of Europe
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Socially Owned Enterprise
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Scroll of Escape /(Lineage 2 game)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Support of Excavation /(construction)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sales Order Entry
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sindicat Occitan de l'Educacion /(French education union)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Senior Officials Exercise
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Service Order Entry
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Strength of Earth Totem /(gaming, World of Warcraft)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Safe Operating Envelope
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Soldiers of Europe /(gaming clan)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Standard Office Environment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Share of Expenditure /(finance)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Subwavelength Optical Elements
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Secondary Optical Element /(optics)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Status Of Equipment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Stationary Operating Engineer /(facilities personnel)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Software Operating Environment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Southern Ocean Exploration /(Melbourne, Australia)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Small Operating Equipment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Shades of Elegance
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sum Of Errors
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Standard Option Equipment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Submerged Operating Envelope /(submarine design)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Short of Exchange
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Synthetic Operational Environment
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Sponsor Owned Equipment /(US Navy)/
>
> SOE
>
>
>
> Servodrive Profile over EtherCAT
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 12:58 PM Sen ectus
> <senectus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not a big or overly experienced user of Linux
> (haven't touched it in 20 years) but looking into
> the crystal ball than may change.
>
> can anyone recommend some good online resources
> and maybe even suggest commercial local resources
> for this?
>
> --
>
>
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