[plug] TPG group no longer providing email

[Chris Caston]

There is a the zoho (free forever) plan but it doesn't include pop/imap or
activesync:

https://www.zoho.com/mail/zohomail-pricing.html

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:39 PM Onno Benschop <onno at itmaze.com.au> wrote:

> FYI, there is no free Google Workspace offering for most customers. If you
> are a school, or a registered nonprofit, there are free accounts available.
>
> Source: I've been using this for many years and recently Google made all
> Workspace products subscription only services.
>
> I have been looking for alternatives because "Google", but I've yet to
> discover anything that comes close.
>
> Given Microsoft's most recent data-breach I'd avoid their service until
> such time as they actually publish how they fixed their secure key
> implementation.
>
> --
> finger painting on glass is an inexact art - apologies for any errors in
> this scra^Hibble
>
> ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno..
>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 15:11 Warren Argus, <warren at warbel.net> wrote:
>
>> I can only assume that ISPs are moving away from offering email for the
>> same reasons most businesses no longer provision on-site email servers.
>> 1. they're increasingly vulnerable to attack (specifically onsite
>> exchange servers) and represent an increasing business risk
>> 2. they don't support modern auth (MFA etc)
>> 3. they require maintenance and support from staff
>>
>> ISPs would also have the added burden of integrating their email systems
>> into the user backends and providing support to their customers. Again
>> increasing their costs and overheads.
>>
>> My recommendation is to either move to the 'free' google workspace tier
>> (optionally you can pay for it if you'd rather not be the product), setup
>> your own email server (I personally use mailinabox + nextcloud hosted in
>> Digital Ocean's Singapore DC), or consider an MS o365 subscription (which
>> comes with a mailbox). With the ability to pretty seamlessly churn ISPs
>> these days I wouldn't recommend sticking with iinet or any of the TPG group
>> - vote with your feet. I would recommend AussieBB though - they have IPv6
>> too, unlike iinet.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Warren.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From*: Byron Hammond <byronester at gmail.com
>> <Byron%20Hammond%20%3cbyronester at gmail.com%3e>>
>> *To*: William Kenworthy <billk at iinet.net.au
>> <William%20Kenworthy%20%3cbillk at iinet.net.au%3e>>
>> *Cc*: PLUG <plug at plug.org.au <PLUG%20%3cplug at plug.org.au%3e>>
>> *Subject*: Re: [plug] TPG group no longer providing email
>> *Date*: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 17:43:22 +0800
>>
>> I am with Aussie Broadband and they provide an email address.
>> Mind you I never use it because I use GMail and Yahoo for junk/spam, but
>> it might be an option
>> Plus ABB are pretty decent on support in my experience, so something to
>> consider
>>
>> Byron
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 10:24, William Kenworthy <billk at iinet.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I presume there are a lot of other PLUG members who use a TPG group ISP
>> like I do.
>>
>> It looks like iinet (and all TPG companies)  are dropping all email
>> services (but apparently not dropping prices) and are force migrating
>> people to a commercial company - free for now but ...
>>
>> The migration so far looks like a rolling disaster from some TPG focused
>> forums I read.  Like almost everyone I have a google email address but is
>> there a reasonable Australian ISP in Perth that still carries email?
>> Telstra and Optus have never been "good" in my opinion.  I also run my home
>> phone through them via asterisk and have mobiles with them - I am not sure
>> they would consider them core services either. I do not store any email at
>> iinet - they provide imap pickup (I run a local mail gateway), a couple of
>> email aliases, provide virus and spam protection but that's it.
>> Its looking like my best option is to stay with iinet (for now) and
>> migrate away from iinet starting with email.
>>
>> What are others considering?
>>
>> BillK
>>
>>
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