[plug] Feedback so far

Dean Bergin dean.bergin at gmail.com
Mon Dec 30 07:56:06 AWST 2024


Hello PLUG Committee,

Please advise when there's a call for talks.

Based on the feedback from this thread, I think I might like to do two
talks in the new year:

   1. IPv6 for Systems Engineering
   2. So you want to build a HomeLab?

As someone who's primarily a Network Engineer (and who also has Systems
Engineering skills) I have a certain amount of knowledge or hands-on
experience in those topics listed above, but I'm also happy to do others
that overlap into the networking-space (time permitting of course).


Regards,

*Dean Bergin*.


On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 at 15:37, Harry McNally <chair at plug.org.au> wrote:

> Hello
>
> Thanks everyone that offered feedback so far.
>
> The committee may add to my observations when it meets. For now:
>
> Greg O said:
>
> > I'd love to say I will come to the March event, because my 10yo NUC is
> overpowered for what it does, and when it eventually dies I would like to
> know what I can practically achieve with a Pi. I also want to run HA,
> beyond the Docker container I started a year ago and promptly neglected.
>
> My interest is similarly low powered servers and the Pi has a high
> profile. If people have heard of Pi, it makes sense to make it an entry
> point for small projects. PLUG (through Nick's efforts) has access to
> support from Raspberry Pi Ltd for these events.
>
> Chris Mc said:
>
> > I have a Pi running in our place in Perth as a NAS. [..] I modified a Pi
> case STL file in Blender and 3d printed a little enclosure that houses
> everything - the powered USB hub, two drives, and the Pi itself. I set up
> Wireguard (..) and now I can connect to the Pi from anywhere in the world ..
>
> This would be a great project to show off on the Raspberry Jam evening if
> you are able to bring it.
>
> Brad C said:
>
> > We have 4 that are permanent and a couple that get used wirelessly for
> things like programming PICs or as wireless serial ports for configuring
> stuff. [.. interesting applications follow ..]
>
> These are all interesting applications although I can see it would be hard
> to bring physical hardware for the backup systems! It would be great to
> have you at the Raspberry Jam evening to talk about those applications or
> any that are pocket-able that you can bring along.
>
> > Mythic Beasts has been doing Pi co-lo for a few years now. I've been
> meaning to play with one of those.
>
> My own perspective is taking back the hardware rather than waggling the
> credit card at a cloud provider. The comparison I'd make is that a ham
> radio enthusiast isn't going to have the same fun by hiring a sat phone.
> I'm happy to be warned of obstacles for self hosting and ways around them.
> Still, part of the session could also demonstrate setting up a Pi at Mythic
> Beasts.
>
> Rob P said:
>
> > I have not found plug to be particularly useful - the esoteric stuff
> discussed on this list is way above my head. What I would be interested in
> is information about how to use linux as a productivity tool.
>
> Thanks Rob. I had someone say years ago that they don't post to the plug
> list because they were intimidated by the technical discussions. And yet
> then there was always people asking questions about this or that user
> application issue they hadn't found a way to solve. Today I see many
> solutions to issues on-line that can be contradictory or simply wrong. The
> PLUG list traffic has declined and it could be that it is only technical
> posts that remain. Jacek (committee) has also noted that he is getting
> people at Riff / SpaceCubed asking about Linux when they see him using it.
> This could assist us to re-invigorate the list with fresh questions and
> solutions.
>
> I can already see two opportunities for sessions from your list.
>
> There are graphical tools rather that using sudo apt but I'd argue they
> still require some work to figure out what packages you need to select for
> XYZ App. An evening looking at the available package management tools and
> security upgrades would be one for the committee to discuss and plan.
>
> Also, graphical file managers; configuring them, documentation, and how to
> request improvements to shortcomings. We have access to Ubuntu developers
> in Perth who could offer guidance on how to contact developer lists to
> request change. I think the committee need to ask (that is, survey) which
> file managers are of most interest and provide an evening that compares and
> contrasts features.
>
> BillK said:
>
> > Timely - I just unplugged my last Pi (a 3B) a couple of days ago as
> being too underpowered.
>
> To be honest, I haven't discussed the PLUG on Pi in any detail with Nick
> yet but the PLUG on Pi may run services on multiple Pi (or cluster ?). For
> now the AWS instance is only serving web and mailing list and membership
> management. If Nick shares my view then I think the idea is to see how much
> can be achieved using small hardware.
>
> PLUG used to offer shell services before the co-lo server failed so there
> are opportunities to see how far the Pi (one or more) can take that.
>
> I heard second-hand that scribe (hello) had talked on Masterdon about the
> PLUG Installfests. This got me thinking that the social media exclusion
> laws may be handing an opportunity to introduce circa-2025 Trents to open
> source tools and hardware. I'd like to explore if we can arrange sessions
> for 10 to 16 year olds (and anyone) to set up their own Masterdon on Pi.
> There are plenty of on-line resources describing how but a face to face
> would be a great way to assist anyone starting out with a Pi.
>
> Feedback welcome.
>
> All the best
> Harry
> Chair, Perth Linux User Group
>
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