[plug] telnet on Mandrake

Willaim Kenworthy billk at opera.iinet.net.au
Fri Dec 3 16:52:22 WST 1999


Hi Craig,
    thanks for the tip, hosts etc are ok, you mentioned logs which for some
reason I totally forgot(!). - they show in.telnetd is missing so I am looking
at that now.

BillK


Craig Foster wrote:

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> Sorry for the winge, I thought it was bordering on topic...
>
> Anyway,
>
> Have you tried adding the machine you telnet from to the hosts file or from
> a resolvable address? I had a similar problem with RH6 & 6.1, and the logs
> only said that the server had received an invalid double-byte character.
> That and I later moved to an OpenSSH / putty combination.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig Foster
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenworthy Family <billk at opera.iinet.net.au>
> To: <plug at linux.org.au>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [plug] telnet on Mandrake
>
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> > Security feature or bug? - to me if it stops you doing something that up
> to now
> > has been normal practice, and have not clearly, and easily findably
> documented
> > the fact, then its a bug!!!  I have no evidence other than telnet into the
> box
> > not working that any extra security has been implemented.  As well, telnet
> does
> > connect, brings up the escape key message, then disconnects - where's the
> > security there unless disabling a very useful feature of a networking
> operating
> > system is security - may as well pull the network cable.  The above winge
> > becomes irrelevant if it is Mandrakes normal precise to disable telnet
> access -
> > but their FAQ website etc makes no real fuss over it being any more secure
> than
> > other distro's - or appears to mention telnet in particular.
> >
> > BillK
> >
> >
> > Craig Foster wrote:
> >
> > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm)
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> > > I agree with the security features coming out in newer versions of
> Linux.
> > > However, I think it was LinuxWorld which disagreed with Red Hat's
> decision
> > > to copy Mandrake and OpenLinux in adding a non-root user upon first-time
> > > installation for RH6.1.
> > >
> > > I was kind of shocked to hear them preaching to newcomers that this is
> > > unnecessary.
> > >
> > > I've e-mailed the author with my thoughts, but we'll have to see whether
> > > anything comes from this.
> > >
> > > Now all we can wait for is an easier / prebuilt ipchains installation...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Craig Foster
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Christian <christian at global.net.au>
> > > To: <plug at linux.org.au>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 2:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [plug] telnet on Mandrake
> > >
> > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm)
> Pro*
> > > > On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Kenworthy Family wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >     I have just (well third time in three days) installed Mandrake
> 6.1
> > > > > and have not killed it this time around.  I have a problem in not
> being
> > > > > able to telnet into the box, either from another machine or using
> > > > > localhost or the machine name to itself.  ftp works fine which
> > > > > eliminates a lot of things - did it on each install, and last time
> tried
> > > > > before I did anything else so looks like something set up in
> Mandrake.
> > > > > Telnet connects then approx 10 seconds later disconnects - "remote
> host
> > > > > closed connection" or similar.  Any ideas where to look as I cannot
> find
> > > > > where such a restriction is set.
> > > >
> > > > It could be tcpwrappers: check /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny.  If
> > > > Mandrake are setting this up by default then they should be
> congratulated
> > > > for it -- it's about time someone shipped a mainstream Linux
> distribution
> > > > in something that vaguely resembles a secure configuration.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Christian.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> ============================================================================
> > > > "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
> poorly."
> > > >                 -- Henry Spencer
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >



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