[plug] isp

[J Michael Gilks]

Iinet ADSL accounts give a discount on setup cost if you have your own modem. 
This is just not advertised, you have to ask
Love
Mike
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 11:31 pm, Craig Foster wrote:
> Has anyone heard more about the move by Cisco to stop leasing routers
> (like series 800)? RequestDSL is hammering this as a sales technique, and
> it's beginning to annoy me. Especially as they're aiming for the
> commercial and ISDN markets... Supposed deadline is December 21st (last
> business day for Ci$co as I heard)
>
> The understanding I have, is that the router / DSL modem is the margin,
> while nada is made on the actual traffic. It also explains why nobody will
> sign me up with my Alcatel Speedtouch Home Ethernet... "Sorry, we won't
> make money out of you"....
>
> Which kinda brings up the question - why is *anybody* selling ADSL modems
> in Australia, to people other than ISPs and Telcos? And does anyone know
> of an ISP willing to *not* force me to buy their overpriced embedded *nix
> box(or worse embedded WinAPI), over my Linux gateway?
>
> Anybody? Anybody? Beuller? Beuller? Beuller?
>
> As to the original complaints about extra charges, there are only so many
> internet routable IPs so it's kinda simple to see the demand Vs supply
> equation that means charges for fixed IPs will be around even past the
> introduction of IPv6.
>
> And you should see how much disk space those free emailboxes can *really*
> chew up... Think 2Mb transferred each day for every mailbox ( and to
> account for those who live on mailing lists :P ). Now times that by 3 for
> every actual ISP account + two free mailboxes. Now take multiply that for
> each ISP account (iiNet has 40,000 last time I saw)
>
> 40,000 Users * 3 Mailboxes * 2MB = around 234 GB transferred, backed up,
> looked after, shunted around, and paid for by the ISP. They have to pass
> that to somebody....
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig Foster
>
> Actually this e-mail should almost double that traffic figure :)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Bromberger [mailto:james at rcpt.to]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 10:21 PM
> > To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [plug] isp
>
> <snip>
>
> > That router was $800 when I got mine... perhaps they offset
> > that from
> > "include" standard "home" DSL modem.  *shrug*
> >
> >   James
> > --
> >  James Bromberger <james_AT_rcpt.to> www.james.rcpt.to