[plug] ia64 linux = P4? & general Q re speed and if anyone has tried it

Mike erazmus at iinet.net.au
Fri Oct 5 13:10:16 WST 2001


At 09:24 AM 5/10/2001 +0800, you wrote:
>"Reduced instruction set" doesn't necessarily have to refer to the
>instruction set it reads in from RAM. If the core of the processor is
>running RISC microcode, then the CISC instructions it is translating don't
>stop the core from being RISC. What is the instruction set of a Pentium
>running a JVM?

>Also remember that RISC denotes a set of reduced instructions, not a
>reduced set of instructions. The number of instructions is not relevant.

mmmm.... (not completely convinced)

The way I understand it is, as the processor deals with complex 
multibyte instructions without any particular need for off chip
ordering then the 'chip' is classed as a Complex Instruction Set
Computer (ie CISC device).

The fact the CISC instructions are translated on chip to microcode
which may have RISC like features doesn't make the overall chip
a RISC device - but a 'part' of the core might well operate like
a RISC engine. Also any on chip instruction reording when CISC is
translated to other instructions is performed by h/w, overall this
makes the chip very very complex indeed... Not in the general class
of a true RISC device which is often seen as:- Minimal silicon,
no complex pipelining, instruction ordering handled off chip etc...

Overall I am still of the opinion that the P? series of processors
are CISC devices...

Rgds

Mike




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