[plug] hello

[Shayne O'Neill]

All linux gurus start out as newbies. :)

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I really apreciate plugs newbie-friendlyness. Back in the bad old days
when I was moving from minix to slackware , my requests for help from
various quarters tended to cop a "RTFM d-head" sort of response.
I never understood it. Personally helping a newbie strokes my ego :)

Never saw newbie directed agro on plug thank god.

Seems linux folks are understanding the importance of the newbie :)
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Shayne O'Neill. Indymedia. Fun.
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Harry wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:38:08 +0800 Chris Caston <caston at arach.net.au> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 21:31, David wrote:
> > > hi all
> > >
> > > when i start up the Browser Galeon it is all right to Browser all the time.
> > >
> > > BUT WHEN I PRINT FROM GALEON BROWSER IT CRASH ALL THE TIME.
>
> > In order to help us answer your question please provide us with the
> > following:
>
> Eep. David's Galeon probably doesn't print because I didn't set it up
> properly on the original work on the Computer Angels debian distro :-(
>
> We are starting discussions about a new version with several options
> (including a pre-stable debian sarge snapshot). This time round the
> plan it so make sure that things like this work (better).
>
> We have the original woody CUPS and also load cupsomatic-ppd but
> it's all a bit tired now. We are more than overdue for an upgrade.
>
> Craig has done heaps of work on a neat net bootable installer to
> unpack fs images for rapid install. The next stage is creating
> the distro images.
>
> Craig has shown that we really need to go up to 64MB as the base system
> now which allows headroom for GTK2 and corresponding newer versions of apps
> but debian provides "choice" which is a two edged sword. Our novice users
> are not going to hack config files together so we have to make integration
> decisions for them so it JustWorks(tm).
>
> Many, many, many users will never do a Windows reload and they resort to
> friends for support. In the same way any Linux distro can be as simple
> or as complicated to install and it isn't relevant to people who
> can't/don't load/reload their software.
>
> For people at the Computer Angels participant level, the computer
> has to be integrated enough to just work. We can also be confident
> that they are in a safer position using Linux than the virii
> enhanced alternative.
>
> If Computer Angels can prove Linux in this environment then we
> are demonstrating Linux as a viable desktop anywhere really.
> For that reason I think we are doing something really important
> on many levels.
>
> I'll stop babbling. Except to say thanks to Onno for his mail to
> David about testing if the xmms-mp3 was installed. David rang
> Computer Angels on Tuesday and I was able to get him to use X
> cut-and-paste to copy the command into an xterm so we didn't
> have difficulty with | chars etc. It transpires that the software
> wasn't installed. I think ymessenger.deb created a folder xmms_mp3etc
> rather than requesting a proper package as a dependency. The folder
> had an INSTALL script and other files so we ended up deleting the
> folder and all is well.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has posted help for David.
>
> All the best
> Harry
>
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