[plug] [OT] Shaping of internet connections (was "gentoo install cd")

[Caleb Duggan]

It seems that downloads/msn/other internet activity cuts in and out a lot.  
At first i thought it was that the bandwidth was been saturated but, then,  
before when I had dialup(which is supposed to be slower), in my house,  
there was sometimes as many as 5 people using the net at the same time and  
i was still able to use msn and check emails but now, that dosent seem to  
work too well even when im the only person using it.

It looks like our exchange can do 8M adsl by the end of this month and  
hopefully i can get it then aswell(couldn't get the slower adsl because of  
been too far from the exchange or something like that). Perhaps i can get  
a larger limit than 10GB when the subscription to bigpond runs out(end of  
next month i think). There's an ok plan at arachnet with 8mb/s adsl for  
$59 a month with 20GB "download allowance" anyone know if that gets shaped  
or pay extra once over the limit? and a 20GB WAIX allowance(which bigpond  
dosent do).

Any other good plans out there i should know about?

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:15:37 +0800, Shannon Carver  
<shannon.carver at gmail.com> wrote:

> I posted this the other day, but for some reason it didn't get returned  
> back
> to the list (my inbox at least), sorry for the repost if it did get  
> through
> to anyone.
>
> Other factors at play too, I think..
>
>  When my connection gets shaped 22mbps to 64kbps (go figure), the speed  
> is
> just atrocious.  If I then drop my MTU window size to that of a dialup
> connection 576, it's a lot better, I've still seen dialup connections
> function better though.  The ping response of ADSL2 usually helps though.
>
> On the other hand, I fail to see how shaping a net connection to 64k is
> helping the state of broadband in Australia at all.  Like, I know, I've
> broken my limit, a limit which I wholeheartedly agreed to, but shaping  
> to a
> speed of similar or less performance to dialup seems a bit ridiculous,  
> there
> must be a better approach.  Efforts need to be taken to (at least in  
> regards
> to iiNet) to provide WAIX data to proxies around Perth, even if the data  
> was
> limited as it left WAIX.  They could even limit total WAIX throughput to
> 256-512kbps.
>
> For now, every time I get shaped, I'll grab the ladder, turn my  
> directional
> 802.11b antenna 90 degree's down the street and use one of the many
> unsecured 1.5mbit DSL links in my area.
>
> This post is completely off topic, and I apologise.
>
> Shannon
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On  
>> Behalf
>> Of Patrick Coleman
>> Sent: Friday, 28 April 2006 8:57 AM
>> To: plug at plug.org.au
>> Subject: Re: [plug] gentoo install cd
>>
>> AFAIK most dialup providers don't do compression, though the protocol
>> supports it - it's possible you're just used to the speed (or perhaps
>> more websites have started being less bandwidth-conscious)... I
>> recently got shaped to 64k for about a month and it was awful :)
>> -Patrick
>>
>> On 4/27/06, Caleb Duggan <caleb.duggan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Ah.... its cable not ADSL, does the same apply for cable?
>> >
>> > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:07:01 +0800, Daniel Pearson
>> <gpearson at iinet.net.au>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > As I understand it.. it's due to there being no compression on the
>> ADSL,
>> > > like you would get on a dialup connection.. shoot me down if I'm  
>> wrong
>> :)
>> > >
>> > > Caleb Duggan wrote:
>> > >> well how big can xorg be? i remember i used to download like 100mb  
>> in
>> > >> a night on dial-up......cant be too much more than that can
>> > >> it?.....tho my internet seems slower than dial up was but it might
>> > >> just be because im used to a connection which "theoretically" can
>> > >> reach 8mb/s(depending on how many people in the street are using  
>> it).
>>
>>
>>
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