[plug] Fedora Core 5 - Install

[Arie Hol]

On 23 Jul 2006 at 12:31, hatari wrote:

> Arie Hol wrote:
> > I have just spent the last 5 hours trying to do a default install of
> > Fedora Core 5 - and at this point I am ready to say goodbye to Fedora
> > and Linux altogether.
> 
> =I still dabble, but the pain can be excruciating at times.
> 
> > I have never had so much trouble trying to get Linux installed and
> > running - even going back to the old versions of Slackware installed
> > from floppy disks.
> 
> =I agree.  In the last several versions of several distros there are 
lots
> of "flakey" things going on.
> 
> > 7 attempts to install each one taking a different approach and all 
with
> > the same results.
> 
> =Arie, I tried 2 attempts myself - from 2 different disks.  I stopped
> there.  They failed to install grub on /boot for multi-OS.  (ie no
> boot-up)
> 
> So I tried Mepis (for a reason which I wont go into).  After prompting 
I
> turned OFF certain Services for security reasons.  After loading I 
found
> that not one had been adjusted.  So you can't trust a system for 
security
> after that, can you?
> 
> > Errors ! Errors ! Errors ! and more Errors !
> 
> Yep.
> 
> 
> Not much help for your problem, but just letting you know others out 
here
> are still finding (too much?) pain in Linux - as it begins to fracture
> into a thousand distros.
> 
> 
Despite my initial whinging and moaning - I ended up with FC5 installed 
and at least running in a stable fashion. There are several things that 
are broken but at least I can do the things that I need to do.

Maybe as time goes by I will get some things fixed - but I can do what I 
need to do on Linux.

Looks like I will not be getting away from Windows XP in a hurry.

It's still the age old question of Linux vs hardware - I am disappointed 
that so many things are out of square with Linux despite the advances 
being made with most distros - the hardware landscape seems to change too 
quickly - and I am not always in a position to change my hardware just to 
suit Linux.

But I am not giving up on Linux by any means. I agree that Linux with its 
many distros is becoming too diversified and agree that the need to 
conform to the Linux Standards Base will be the most critical factor for 
the survival of Linux - lest that it becomes too factionalised to remain 
coherent as a single entity - but the situation will become more 
difficult as the "larger" distros such as Redhat, Novell and Mandriva 
become more independent with their progress in development and 
diversification.

Diversity gives choice - but too much diversity causes factionalisation 
away from the central cause - ie Instead of the fight being between Linux 
vs Microsoft - it seems to increase the tendency for distro wars - then 
you add in the differences with the Solaris systems and the BSD systems 
as well.

Then there is still the age old problem - hardware compatibility and 
certain hardware manufacturers NOT accepting that there is/are 
alternative ways of setting up computing environments - many of them will 
never accept this factor while so many people in the world think that 
"Windows" is the only way to go.

Maybe the arrival of "Vista" will change peoples minds - considering that 
it will need from 11-15 Gb for a basic install - and will require from 
512 - 1024 Mb RAM to run - and also will have rather high requirements as 
to graphics capability in order to achieve the "new visual" affects that 
come with "Vista". The "Home" versions will come in three levels of 
functionality/capability which is determined by the level of hardware 
capability in a computer. This will cause a lot of angst for people who 
want to upgrade their OS but not their hardware.

Imagine the effect of this on commercial enterprise - perhaps this is the 
edge that Linux will need to gain a better advantage - except for that 
age old problem of Linux vs Hardware.

Like I said two (or so) years ago - the more that Linux tries to be 
'like' Windows - the more 'like' Windows it becomes.

But why ?
 
Linux can be so much better than 'Windows', because "IT IS" better than 
'Windows' except for the age old question of Hardware vs Linux.

I don't want a flame war on this one, I am all for Linux and everything 
it has to offer. But there are some areas where Linux does not meet my 
needs and I cannot develop my skills fast enough to 'help' Linux meet my 
needs.

Regards Arie
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