[plug] Fedora Core 5 - Install

[Kev]

Arie Hol wrote:
> 
> On 23 Jul 2006 at 12:31, hatari wrote:
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>>Arie Hol wrote:
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>>>I have just spent the last 5 hours trying to do a default install of
>>>Fedora Core 5 - and at this point I am ready to say goodbye to Fedora
>>>and Linux altogether.
>>
>>=I still dabble, but the pain can be excruciating at times.
>>
>>
>>>I have never had so much trouble trying to get Linux installed and
>>>running - even going back to the old versions of Slackware installed
>>>from floppy disks.
>>
>>=I agree.  In the last several versions of several distros there are 
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> lots
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>>of "flakey" things going on.
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>>>7 attempts to install each one taking a different approach and all 
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> with
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>>>the same results.
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>>=Arie, I tried 2 attempts myself - from 2 different disks.  I stopped
>>there.  They failed to install grub on /boot for multi-OS.  (ie no
>>boot-up)
>>
>>So I tried Mepis (for a reason which I wont go into).  After prompting 
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> I
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>>turned OFF certain Services for security reasons.  After loading I 
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> found
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>>that not one had been adjusted.  So you can't trust a system for 
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> security
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>>after that, can you?
>>
>>
>>>Errors ! Errors ! Errors ! and more Errors !
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>>Yep.
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>>
>>Not much help for your problem, but just letting you know others out 
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> here
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>>are still finding (too much?) pain in Linux - as it begins to fracture
>>into a thousand distros.
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>>
> 
> Despite my initial whinging and moaning - I ended up with FC5 installed 
> and at least running in a stable fashion. There are several things that 
> are broken but at least I can do the things that I need to do.
> 
> Maybe as time goes by I will get some things fixed - but I can do what I 
> need to do on Linux.
> 
> Looks like I will not be getting away from Windows XP in a hurry.
> 
> It's still the age old question of Linux vs hardware - I am disappointed 
> that so many things are out of square with Linux despite the advances 
> being made with most distros - the hardware landscape seems to change too 
> quickly - and I am not always in a position to change my hardware just to 
> suit Linux.
> 
> But I am not giving up on Linux by any means. I agree that Linux with its 
> many distros is becoming too diversified and agree that the need to 
> conform to the Linux Standards Base will be the most critical factor for 
> the survival of Linux - lest that it becomes too factionalised to remain 
> coherent as a single entity - but the situation will become more 
> difficult as the "larger" distros such as Redhat, Novell and Mandriva 
> become more independent with their progress in development and 
> diversification.
> 
> Diversity gives choice - but too much diversity causes factionalisation 
> away from the central cause - ie Instead of the fight being between Linux 
> vs Microsoft - it seems to increase the tendency for distro wars - then 
> you add in the differences with the Solaris systems and the BSD systems 
> as well.
> 
> Then there is still the age old problem - hardware compatibility and 
> certain hardware manufacturers NOT accepting that there is/are 
> alternative ways of setting up computing environments - many of them will 
> never accept this factor while so many people in the world think that 
> "Windows" is the only way to go.
> 
> Maybe the arrival of "Vista" will change peoples minds - considering that 
> it will need from 11-15 Gb for a basic install - and will require from 
> 512 - 1024 Mb RAM to run - and also will have rather high requirements as 
> to graphics capability in order to achieve the "new visual" affects that 
> come with "Vista". The "Home" versions will come in three levels of 
> functionality/capability which is determined by the level of hardware 
> capability in a computer. This will cause a lot of angst for people who 
> want to upgrade their OS but not their hardware.
> 
> Imagine the effect of this on commercial enterprise - perhaps this is the 
> edge that Linux will need to gain a better advantage - except for that 
> age old problem of Linux vs Hardware.
> 
> Like I said two (or so) years ago - the more that Linux tries to be 
> 'like' Windows - the more 'like' Windows it becomes.
> 
> But why ?
>  
> Linux can be so much better than 'Windows', because "IT IS" better than 
> 'Windows' except for the age old question of Hardware vs Linux.
> 
> I don't want a flame war on this one, I am all for Linux and everything 
> it has to offer. But there are some areas where Linux does not meet my 
> needs and I cannot develop my skills fast enough to 'help' Linux meet my 
> needs.
> 
> Regards Arie

Why not give it one last try?  There are a few of here using Xandros, 
and it "simply works - right out of the box".  Whilst it /is/ a Windoze 
users' desktop distro, underneath it's still a regular Debian Linux and 
can be used as such for the most part.  What I've liked most is that it 
got me started easilly, and as I've developed my Linux knowledge I've 
been able to treat it just like any other distro.  You're /not/ locked 
into their package management system as in Linspire.  I have CDs here if 
you want to have a look.

Cheers
Kev

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