[plug] iiNet job on Seek

[Daniel Pearson (Flashware Solutions)]

And also to note - working in the industry myself and rubbing shoulders 
with a lot of other companies out there - that same job at iiNet would 
be offered at another company, with for example a 60k starting salary.

As the old saying goes - if you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys (or 
whoever it goes..). That is the problem I see with that job for iiNet, 
and perhaps why it has been advertised so often / had such a high 
turnover rate. If you want quality employment, then its simple - you pay 
for it.

Just my $0.02 worth.. YMMV :)

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Shayne O'Neill wrote:
> No, you can make that sort of money, if you just specialise right.
>
> The big hint I've been told is to do a security degreee with an IT
> minor. IT security guys with a security degrees can make mindboggling
> somes of cash. A guy I know went straight from uni to nearly $300k .
> That's absurd, and entirely achievable with a degree in security. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On
> Behalf Of Gavin Chester
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 12:47 PM
> To: plug at plug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [plug] iiNet job on Seek
>
> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 12:27 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:
>   
>> On 11/9/06, Tomasz Grzegurzko <tomasz89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On 11/9/06, Gavin Chester <sales at ecosolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:55 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>>> Just for my curiosity, what would you expect to get in a job 
>>>>>> such as that?
>>>>>>             
>
> -snip lots of useful answer -
>
>   
>>> For a programming job, requiring a decent amount of skill (and this 
>>> one sounds like it) I'd say at least >$40k for someone like myself.
>>> 'Course that depends on the person, for me I'm worth every penny
>>>       
> hehe.
>
> Thanks for such a comprehensive answer.  I am surprised that salary
> levels aren't what I had expected them to be - falling short by a long
> way.  I'm a life-sciences graduate and the salaries you quote are on par
> with what people in my field could expect for comparable
> seniority/experience.  I had suffered under the delusion that IT with
> good degree(s) and several years experience could easily expect
> $150K-$250K.  So is that only the few lucky to work freelance, or
> what?    
>
>   
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tomasz
>>>
>>>       
>> Sorry for THIS job they want heaps of skills and I agree with Shannon.
>> I was talking more generically about programming.
>>     
>
> And, thanks to you for your input, Shannon.  I must say, you have put me
> in my place regarding my expectations of IT salaries :-(.  The reason
> for my curiosity is because my wife often says "you spend so much
> god-damn time on that computer, why don't you put it to _real_ use and
> retrain in IT to bring home decent money!"  :-)  Maybe not, eh?
>
> Gavin.  
>
>
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