[plug] Wireless-N router for faster wireless....

Tue Jan 20 12:56:32 WST 2009

I am, but I may be wrong (just been scanning some answers, may have 
missed something important.

I googled for 'ps3 ad hoc network', and I get a lot of results with 
people asking how to do it, with the answers - can't

It is mentioned in a few posts that (under windows exmaples) to 'create 
a new network' (internet connection sharing?) on the windows machine, 
and then connect the PS3 to that new created network. But as I can see 
it, that is just the windows machine acting as an AP.

Possible this is different between different models of the PS3?

I figure I can go and have a look at the PS3 connection settings...

Busy browsing to find a router I like.

 From your other post, I agree - did not know about

ddwrt

But I have been making sure it is compatible with Openwrt

William Kenworthy wrote:
> are you sure? - looked at this a couple of days ago and it seems like
> its doable between a ps3 and laptop according to Mr Google. - waiting
> for the go ahead to actually try it, but I cant see why not from what I
> read.
>
> BillK
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 11:08 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>   
>> Seems the PS3 cannot do ad-hoc, except with the PSP.
>>
>> Thus the idea went to creating my own AP for it to connect to.
>>
>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>     
>>> This is probably the way to go then - many client AP's wont do AP mode,
>>> but it should do adhoc mode (basicly a peer to peer mode) - use the host
>>> to bridge it onto the desired network.
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:59 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Ok, this is just another wild idea.
>>>>
>>>> Just throwing ideas out there, checking all possibles, before I go spend 
>>>> money, and find I could have done this without forking out cash.
>>>>
>>>> I have some spare pci wireless cards.
>>>>
>>>> Can I not add another card to the media server, and setup that card in 
>>>> the media server to act as a access point, on it's own channel.
>>>> I can then get the PS3 to connect to this access point, rather than the 
>>>> actual router, and thus the PS3 and the mediaserver would have their own 
>>>> seperate
>>>> channel, thus their own bandwidth between them. In effect same setup as 
>>>> having another AP on the network.
>>>>
>>>> As the media server has access onto the other network, I can then access 
>>>> it from the other machines still.
>>>>
>>>> The next issue (if this is viable) is to get the ps3 to gain access to 
>>>> the internet thereafter, but I would solve that as the next step.
>>>>
>>>> -Lucas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Yes, you have to separate the bandwidth - if you have two groups of
>>>>> machines on different channels, you will need to bridge them - I think
>>>>> upnp needs to be on the same subnet.  2nd cheap access point may be the
>>>>> way to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if you can design it to be a totally isolated link, you might be
>>>>> able to turn off WPA and gain quite a lot of bandwidth.  I would think
>>>>> carefully about security and implications for the link ends first though
>>>>> - I dont know enough about your endpoint and PS3 to say its safe or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> BillK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:02 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The netgear router I have is not that advanced.
>>>>>> No QoS, and is a b/g router. Time for an upgrade me thinks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically (from the other post received) I gotta try and get the PS3 -> 
>>>>>> MediaServer WAN on it's own channel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So other machines - channel 1
>>>>>> PS3/Media Server - channel 6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When they are on different channels, that then means they can't 'talk' 
>>>>>> to each other? Correct?
>>>>>> So my machines won't be able to access the media server, until I put 
>>>>>> that back onto channel 1.
>>>>>> This will be an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Lucas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> If you have a g/a router, can you create a virtual AP on the A band for
>>>>>>> the streams only? - or buy a second AP that does A?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VLAN's with QOS may be another possibility depending on the capabilitoes
>>>>>>> of the hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can stream mythTV at SD over g while my son is playing games without
>>>>>>> either being affected.  HD only works with the laptop next to the AP
>>>>>>> (lack of bandwidth).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In reality, separating the streams by using a second AP or spit as
>>>>>>> suggested above is going to be the best solution.  Sharing bandwidth can
>>>>>>> only go so far :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BillK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 01:40 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I stream media using MediaTomb to my PS3,  and when any of the other 
>>>>>>>> machines are very busy on the network, then the PS3 media stream lags, 
>>>>>>>> and the video stutters badly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On my home network, I have my webserver, my media server, my office 
>>>>>>>> machine, two laptops and of course the PS3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am wondering about possible ways to improve the speed (or more 
>>>>>>>> accurately, available bandwidth) between the media server and the PS3, 
>>>>>>>> when I am busy with a stream.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First thoughts - Hardware upgrades:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am considering updating my 'g' router to an 'n' router, and thus also 
>>>>>>>> updating my network cards to 'n' compatible ones.
>>>>>>>> I know the PS3 can only do 'g/b', but I figure if I upgrade the rest of 
>>>>>>>> the network, to 'n', then the PS3 stream will have more bandwidth 
>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>> Is my assumption correct here? Chances are that once the other machines 
>>>>>>>> have more bandwidth available, they will just hog it all again, and I 
>>>>>>>> will be back to where I started.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another option would be to go with the 'n' upgrade above, but also get 
>>>>>>>> an extra router, and connect that direct to the PS3 wired network port, 
>>>>>>>> and thus get the ps3 to get onto the 'n' network.
>>>>>>>> Again, the other machines could just hog more bandwidth, as there are 
>>>>>>>> more available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Second Idea:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Throttle the other machines when I stream to the PS3.
>>>>>>>> Personally I think the throttling would be the best (and cheapest) 
>>>>>>>> option, and one that I can actually control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on this please, on how to improve the PS3/MediaTomb streams?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Lucas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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