[plug] Wireless-N router for faster wireless....
Lucas van Staden
lvs at dedmeet.com
Tue Jan 20 15:05:20 WST 2009
Hi,
William Kenworthy wrote:
> I searched differently and found many hits saying how to do this - some
> step by step. Avoid ad-hoc in the search terms helps. Originally, I
> was looking to see if a dlink usb key and windows box could connect to a
> ps3 for internet play and found a guide that was basicly normal ad-hoc
> mode without saying so - no tricks at all! What did surprise me (or
> maybe it shouldnt) was all the clueless types reccomending 128bit wep
> over wpa and other total crap ideas :)
>
>
Can you gibe me your search terms, or some links to these steps you
mention,
as I still cannot find anyone who says they could get the ps3 connected
to an ad-hoc network (other than with the PSP)
> In this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3
>
> "Sony has also demonstrated the PSP playing back video content from the
> PlayStation 3 hard disk across an ad-hoc wireless network. This feature
> is referred to as Remote Play located under the browser icon on both the
> PlayStation 3 and the PlayStation Portable. Remote play has since
> expanded to allow remote access to the PS3 via PSP from any wireless
> access point in the world."
>
>
Again, ad-hoc connection to the psp, not to any other machine/device.
I have had a look at the PS3 wireless connection settings since my last
post, and it only brings up AP's to connect to.
There is no setting under the wireless settings to go ad-hoc.
You either SCAN for AP's or enter the AP name manually, or use AROS (i
think it was called)
The remote play setting mentioned is for use with PSP, which you must
first register under 'remote devices' in the system settings.
I have to disagree - PS3 cannot do ad-hoc, unless the other device is a PSP.
From other searches, the PS3 cannot even ad-hoc to other PS3's ,which
has been complained about to Sony by users (for setup of ad-hoc gaming
sessions between two ps3's)
-Lucas
> BillK
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 12:56 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>
>> I am, but I may be wrong (just been scanning some answers, may have
>> missed something important.
>>
>> I googled for 'ps3 ad hoc network', and I get a lot of results with
>> people asking how to do it, with the answers - can't
>>
>> It is mentioned in a few posts that (under windows exmaples) to 'create
>> a new network' (internet connection sharing?) on the windows machine,
>> and then connect the PS3 to that new created network. But as I can see
>> it, that is just the windows machine acting as an AP.
>>
>> Possible this is different between different models of the PS3?
>>
>> I figure I can go and have a look at the PS3 connection settings...
>>
>> Busy browsing to find a router I like.
>>
>> From your other post, I agree - did not know about
>>
>> ddwrt
>>
>> But I have been making sure it is compatible with Openwrt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>
>>> are you sure? - looked at this a couple of days ago and it seems like
>>> its doable between a ps3 and laptop according to Mr Google. - waiting
>>> for the go ahead to actually try it, but I cant see why not from what I
>>> read.
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 11:08 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Seems the PS3 cannot do ad-hoc, except with the PSP.
>>>>
>>>> Thus the idea went to creating my own AP for it to connect to.
>>>>
>>>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is probably the way to go then - many client AP's wont do AP mode,
>>>>> but it should do adhoc mode (basicly a peer to peer mode) - use the host
>>>>> to bridge it onto the desired network.
>>>>>
>>>>> BillK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:59 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, this is just another wild idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just throwing ideas out there, checking all possibles, before I go spend
>>>>>> money, and find I could have done this without forking out cash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some spare pci wireless cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I not add another card to the media server, and setup that card in
>>>>>> the media server to act as a access point, on it's own channel.
>>>>>> I can then get the PS3 to connect to this access point, rather than the
>>>>>> actual router, and thus the PS3 and the mediaserver would have their own
>>>>>> seperate
>>>>>> channel, thus their own bandwidth between them. In effect same setup as
>>>>>> having another AP on the network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the media server has access onto the other network, I can then access
>>>>>> it from the other machines still.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The next issue (if this is viable) is to get the ps3 to gain access to
>>>>>> the internet thereafter, but I would solve that as the next step.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Lucas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you have to separate the bandwidth - if you have two groups of
>>>>>>> machines on different channels, you will need to bridge them - I think
>>>>>>> upnp needs to be on the same subnet. 2nd cheap access point may be the
>>>>>>> way to go?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if you can design it to be a totally isolated link, you might be
>>>>>>> able to turn off WPA and gain quite a lot of bandwidth. I would think
>>>>>>> carefully about security and implications for the link ends first though
>>>>>>> - I dont know enough about your endpoint and PS3 to say its safe or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BillK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:02 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The netgear router I have is not that advanced.
>>>>>>>> No QoS, and is a b/g router. Time for an upgrade me thinks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Basically (from the other post received) I gotta try and get the PS3 ->
>>>>>>>> MediaServer WAN on it's own channel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So other machines - channel 1
>>>>>>>> PS3/Media Server - channel 6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When they are on different channels, that then means they can't 'talk'
>>>>>>>> to each other? Correct?
>>>>>>>> So my machines won't be able to access the media server, until I put
>>>>>>>> that back onto channel 1.
>>>>>>>> This will be an issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Lucas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have a g/a router, can you create a virtual AP on the A band for
>>>>>>>>> the streams only? - or buy a second AP that does A?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> VLAN's with QOS may be another possibility depending on the capabilitoes
>>>>>>>>> of the hardware.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can stream mythTV at SD over g while my son is playing games without
>>>>>>>>> either being affected. HD only works with the laptop next to the AP
>>>>>>>>> (lack of bandwidth).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In reality, separating the streams by using a second AP or spit as
>>>>>>>>> suggested above is going to be the best solution. Sharing bandwidth can
>>>>>>>>> only go so far :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BillK
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 01:40 +0900, Lucas van Staden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I stream media using MediaTomb to my PS3, and when any of the other
>>>>>>>>>> machines are very busy on the network, then the PS3 media stream lags,
>>>>>>>>>> and the video stutters badly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On my home network, I have my webserver, my media server, my office
>>>>>>>>>> machine, two laptops and of course the PS3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am wondering about possible ways to improve the speed (or more
>>>>>>>>>> accurately, available bandwidth) between the media server and the PS3,
>>>>>>>>>> when I am busy with a stream.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First thoughts - Hardware upgrades:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am considering updating my 'g' router to an 'n' router, and thus also
>>>>>>>>>> updating my network cards to 'n' compatible ones.
>>>>>>>>>> I know the PS3 can only do 'g/b', but I figure if I upgrade the rest of
>>>>>>>>>> the network, to 'n', then the PS3 stream will have more bandwidth
>>>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>>>> Is my assumption correct here? Chances are that once the other machines
>>>>>>>>>> have more bandwidth available, they will just hog it all again, and I
>>>>>>>>>> will be back to where I started.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another option would be to go with the 'n' upgrade above, but also get
>>>>>>>>>> an extra router, and connect that direct to the PS3 wired network port,
>>>>>>>>>> and thus get the ps3 to get onto the 'n' network.
>>>>>>>>>> Again, the other machines could just hog more bandwidth, as there are
>>>>>>>>>> more available.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Second Idea:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Throttle the other machines when I stream to the PS3.
>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think the throttling would be the best (and cheapest)
>>>>>>>>>> option, and one that I can actually control.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on this please, on how to improve the PS3/MediaTomb streams?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Lucas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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