[plug] the "iview problem"

Ben Keith bjkeith at gmail.com
Sun Feb 23 03:21:29 UTC 2014


Hi Gavin,

Echoing Steve's response, I have iView, SBS On Demand, Youtube and other
sites playing video without issue with the following:

Kubuntu 13.10
Firefox 27.0
Shockwave Flash plugin 11.2 r202

I don't have Chrome or the Pepper flash plugin installed.

I have internet through iiNet. Some quick testing with iView this morning
seems to suggest the video related traffic is being counted against quota,
not freezone.

So if I understand correctly, the problems you are having are because you
are trying to get iView to work *unmetered* with Flash 11.7?

Regards,

Ben



On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gavin Chester <gavin.chester at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 23/02/14 09:36, Steve Boak wrote:
> > On 22/02/14 21:36, Gavin Chester wrote:
> >> Anyone else struggling to feed their fix of iview to catch shows you've
> >> missed going to air?
> >>
> >> First, I know the background to this by having searched out (a while
> >> ago) the whole stupid flash issue and how we in linux-land are worst
> >> affected. Consequently, I have the pepper flash plugin installed and up
> >> to date and am forced to use it in the chrome browser.
> >>
> >> However, despite that I have two issues:
> >> 1/ the default chrome settings file seems to keep getting over-written
> >> and the necessary extra line of settings telling chrome to use pepper
> >> flash is disappearing at random intervals. This requires repeated
> >> editing of that default settings file; and
> >> 2/ Despite ensuring chrome is using the latest pepper flash (checked
> >> using "chrome:plugins") I have been unable to see any iview for a couple
> >> of weeks now (btw, sbs ondemand is fine as long as pepper is up to
> date).
> >>
> >> The iview message boards have nothing new related to my issue on the
> >> topic that I can see.
> >>
> >> Why oh why is iview being so belligerent on this issue? Surely if one
> >> were to use an outdated flash then it is at your own risk so why have a
> >> website bar you from its content?
> >>
> >> Is my recent frustration an isolated case?
> >>
> > Hi Gavin
> >
> > I don't have a solution to your problem, but I do have a fully working
> > flash combination with Debian Wheezy (7.4), KDE 4.8.4, Iceweasel 24.3.0,
> > and shockwave Flash 11.2 r202. All these are 'standard issue' with the
> > Wheezy distribution. I have had issues in the past, but for the last few
> > months it 'just works' with iView, YouTube and pretty much anything else
> > I try to watch.
> >
> > I've never heard of pepper, but from a quick search it seems to be a
> > non-free google flash replacement, so what's the advantage?
> >
> > Steve
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I don't know what wizardry you're using to get iview to work, but since
> it "just works" then maybe some higher force is acting on your behalf
> because it simply shouldn't with your setup according to the iview
> forums and others are full of people complaining about it!
>
> Flash 11.2 in firefox/konqueror/opera/etc is fine for ALL other sites
> except iview and sbs. For a while now, iview will not work on less than
> flash 11.7, reportedly, which was a deliberate decision by iview to
> limit it this way. Why? Can't find out why. But, to answer your
> question: why am I using pepper flash and chrome? Because flash
> development for linux stopped at 11.2 and will not continue. Google
> developed/brought in pepper flash that works only with chrome and it is
> the only flash for linux continuing under active development (btw: in
> case it's lost in the noise, sbs ondemand is similarly affected, but I
> can currently get that to work since it seems to be more forgiving?)
>
> FYI: the problem presents itself as the programs taking forever to load
> before reporting it's not available. That's solely due to your flash
> version according to everyone.
>
> --
> Gavin Chester
>
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